What do you think about books that say the Bible changed from what was originally written to what it is today?
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When people speak of the Bible being inspired, they are referring to the fact that God divinely influenced the human authors of the Scriptures in such a way that what they wrote was the very Word of God. In the context of the Scriptures, the word inspiration simply means “God-Breathed.” Inspiration communicates to us the fact the Bible truly is the Word of God, and makes the Bible unique among all other books.\n\nBecause the Scriptures are the inspired Word of God, we can conclude that they are also inerrant and authoritative. A correct view of God will lead one to a correct view of His Word. Because God is all-powerful, all-knowing, and completely perfect, His Word will by its very nature have the same characteristics. The same verses that establish the inspiration of the Scriptures also establish that it is both inerrant and authoritative. Without a doubt the Bible is what it claims to be - the undeniable, authoritative, Word of God to humanity.
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Not only that, but *originals* for the vast majority of books in the bible haven't existed for thousands of years.  All the translators have to work from are copies of copies of copies of copies...\nOh, but of course, we *know* that nobody made any errors, changes, or intentional additions or deletions when they made those hand-written copies, right? ;-)\n\nForget about the actual content, OF COURSE there are errors in just getting what's called the bible into your hands from the people who originally wrote the books.  Anyone who thinks there are no errors of any kind in the bible is very, very deluded.
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Heh, heh... thanks bro. ;)\n\nI have seen some rare textual changes that have changed the meaning or even elimination of a word because they could not see how it fits. Hebrew letters can look very close to one another, much like our "l" and "i". So any distortion in the leather parchment could be a problem or the flaking of the ink could cause problems as well.\nMy mentor once told me that when the military creates a complex code, they transmit it with parity, or multiple times, so that if the coded message is in any way garbled, they can compare it to earlier or later transmissions. The Bible does the same thing by repeating the important messages several times. This is why Deuteronomy is called Deuteronomy. It's "repeating what we already know is true".\nCan these people explain to me why the entire 2,000 year old Isaiah scroll found in Qumran is virtually identical with the modern copies found in every synagogue in the world?\nRemember that Revelation carries an eternal curse of damnation for anyone who adds or subtracts from the text of scripture, and I do not think King James was hoping for political advantage at the expense of his soul.\nToday, we still have the original Hebrew and Greek text. Changing the scriptures would offer us ZERO political gain. Yet is still translates the same as the original King James, only with todays vernacular. \nI wonder if these people even research beyond their own notions. Do they have such skepticism when they read their dosage instructions for medication?
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If you notice, everyone seems to have a different idea to so Fundamental a question. Everyone seems to have a different view. People can have different interpretations of the same book and this is the case of the Bible. Also the Bible has been passed on from one generation to the other by scripts who rewrote the book and made altercations on the way. No Original bible as such exists, the one we have now is a continuosly revised edition of the first. And the bible was not written in the presence of christ which is clear however you look at the fact. All Religions lead to the same end, heaven. As long as we have faith in our hearts, we dont have to worry about anything else.
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Nothing from the bible has been proven except obvious things (the sun rose that morning lol). There's much better explanations for nature and the workings of the universe than the bible has ever given. EVIDENCE and FACTS point towards things VERY different than those written in the bible. It's vastly outdated and filled with lies and things we should long have forgotten.
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It is my view that the Bible is written by man and may have the writer's bias.  This is not to say that the Bible is not inspired by God/Jehovah or not a valid holy work, but rather His desires have been interpreted by His followers.  After all, if God inspired you to write a holy work that went against what you'd been taught or against common belief, could you write it just as God wants.  We are here on earth b/c we have the freedom to choose Him or not, so why would He control what is written.\n\nI also want to point out that the Bible in modern days is quite fallible.  Most scholars (religious or not) will tell you translating is not a perfect science.  Because most of us can't read the Bible in its original languages, we must rely on what someone has translated for us.  Translating without the original writer is dificult.  One word may have mutlitple meanings, and noone knows which meaning was intended.  That means that even if the Bible is perfectly from the hand of God, it probably isn't anymore.\n\nIf you want me to elaborate, e-mail me at adam_macpharlain@yahoo.com.
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that's not what he wrote, that's what he said.\n\ni am quite sure we won't know the answer to that. it was probably edited out by those who chose what books they wanted in the bible
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Regardless of what the more religious people might say, the Bible has been badly understood and misinterpreted since it was written.  Wars have killed many millions over the different ideas people have had and we, to this day, have many different churches believing in the same book yet not agreeing on it because interpretations have been passed down through generations and the children of these people have been force fed the supposed knowledge.  So we end up with a very one-sided debate with religion which we are supposed to respect, but unfortunately has lost much of it's respect.
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Some look at facts and evolution and the facts that man wrote the bible and has changed it to suit his ideas through time
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I dont believe there are any versions outside of the original texts that are more accurate than the next. There are flaws in the 1611 KJV as well as the NIV and every other version... I dont like the NWT though because it deliberately changes text to fit the Jehovah's Witness doctrines. (if you dont believe the KJV has flaws, contact me and I'll be happy to share them with you)
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agreed, the Bible has become a modern day idol that people worship\n\ni have faith in god and all this jazz but some people w#nk on it too much\n\nthings been copied by people and they made mistakes and people dont wanna admit theres some mistakes\n\nfrom greek to latin to english like 50 people translating and copying things got messed up\n\ntheres a picture in the book im reading that shows a page where the guy is saying in the margin to the previous guy that hes a fool and a knave for rewriting from the orginal text
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Remember that the Bible was continuously rewritten "translated" by men, Need I say more?
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No. god decided to contradict himself by taking away free will for a bit, so he could get the humans to write his book for him.\nAnd of course, that's ignoring all the inconsistancies in the new testament, like made up prophesies and the evidence to support that the old testament was actually copied from ancient Sumerian stone tablets...\n\n:)\n\nTY, shawny  :D
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Now, imagine a book... \n\nwritten by over 40 different authors \nwritten in 3 different languages \nwritten within very different cultures \nwritten on 3 different continents \nwritten over a 1,600-year period \nwritten by kings as well as peasants, philosophers & fishermen, prisoners & doctors \nwritten on hundreds of controversial issues \nWhat kind of book would we have? \n\nYou might think, “a mound of inconsistency so confusing as to produce an all time worst-seller.” But add one element — GOD overseeing all these authors — and what do we get? The Bible, the best-selling book of all time. \n\nThe Bible’s Claim \nThe Bible claims to be actual communication from God to humanity. Notice these biblical passages:\n\nAll Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 \n\nAbove all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. 2 Peter 1:20-21 \n\nThe Bible claims to be the very Word of God (verbum Dei), indeed, the very words of God (verba Dei). But this claim often raises a number of objections. \n\nObjection #1: The Bibles we have today are nothing like the biblical books as they were originally written. \nThis is a real concern people have. The question of whether or not the Bible was God’s Word 2,000 years ago is irrelevant if the Bible we read today is substantially different from what was originally written. Until the invention of the printing press around 1450, all literature was hand-copied and scribes could make mistakes in copying. It’s hard to know if errors are present with many ancient works simply because few early hand-written copies exist. But this is not a major concern with the biblical documents: \n\n1. There are over 24,000 surviving partial or complete manuscripts of New Testament books today. By comparison, the next largest number is for Homer’s Iliad, with only 643 surviving manuscripts. We have only 7 copies of Pliny’s History and only 10 of Caesar’s Gallic Wars―but we don’t hesitate to trust them. \n\n2. Furthermore, the New Testament has unusually early manuscripts compared with other ancient literature. Our earliest copy of Pliny’s History dates to 750 years after Pliny’s death. A lot can happen in 750 years. And the earliest copy of Gallic Wars was copied 1,000 years after Caesar’s death. By contrast, some early New Testament fragments date to within 30 years of their first writing, as with the John Rylands papyrus found in Egypt. There simply wasn’t enough time between the original writing and our earliest manuscripts to allow for much corruption. \n\n3. There are over 84,000 quotations from the New Testament (mainly from sermons) dating to the early centuries of the Church. In fact, even if we didn’t have a single manuscript of the Bible today, we could reconstruct all but 11 verses of the entire New Testament from material within 150 to 200 years from the time of Christ. \n\n4. Similarly, with the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in the 1950s, we now have copies of the entire Old Testament from before the time of Christ―complete copies of every book except Esther.\n\nModern translations of the Bible (New International Version, New American Standard Bible, etc.) are translated directly from these earliest biblical manuscripts. \n\nObjection #2: The Bible is just a book of fairy-tales. Its account is not historically reliable. \nWhile there are letters and songs and laws and doctrinal teachings in the Bible, the most common genre within the Scripture is history. Observers point out that the Bible is an historical document in that it consistently gives accurate information on the geography, chronology, people, places, customs, nations and even
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I love the Bible. It amazes how it was written so-o-o long ago and yet is applicable  to today's modern times...it goes to show you that the feelings of the human heart surpasses the tests of time...and yes, i get different messages--and with the different messages--comes different meaning...though my emotions change, the words in the Bible remain the same.....so my interpretation will change depending on what state-of-mind or situation I am in.....but, no matter what, it always comes back to humility,charity, love and patience..........god bless you!!!
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The entire bible?  No.  In fact, there is proof that parts of the bible are inaccurate (like Genesis), and there is proof that parts of the bible really happened (we know many hisotrical leaders and occurances actually happened).\n\n- We've found Herod's palace, and it implies he was as carefree as the bible portrays him as.  One point for bible\n\n- We've found egyptian records that range from acheivements to embarassments.  They were quite meticulous at their historical records...yet no mention of Moses, losing their slaves, losing their first borns, plagues, etc.  One point against.\n\n- We've found evidence of a mass flood, one point for\n\n- It would be impossible for all species alive today to fit on the boat, not to mention carry enough food, deal with waste, etc.  One point against.\n\nSo you see, the bible is much like Greek or Egyptian mythology.  It is what was thought to have been known at the time...some of it was correct, some based on false rumor.
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I've always held the belief that the Bible has been changed to fit the beliefs of whoever commissioned the latest translation.  It's no surprise to me at all that some of the stories were tacked on later as some were removed when they didn't fit in with what was being taught at the time.  \n\nWhy is the Bible supposedly above scrutiny?  Why is it that when people question whether or not it was written and re-written by men, people freak out?  In this day and age, if somebody were to claim they were divinely inspired to write a holy book, we'd call them nuts.  But, we should just believe that this particular group of men really were divinely inspired?