the Bhagvhad Gita is older by many centuries than the bible or the Torah and yet christians scream about it?
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The newer the better my friend the newer the better... Come to islam
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Being brought up as an anligcan I was always allowed to take a very open interpretation of this text , and I read the whole thing cover to cover before i'd turned 13 I even at that age noticed these stiffling contradictions , There are probably three issues at play here , 1. THE BIBLE IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD , (unlike the Koran or The Book of The Law the bible wasn't dictated to a human from a higher entity) . It is a a bunch of texts grouped together in order to furfther a specific agenda ( That of the Holy Roman Empire).It is as much a work of propaganda as it is a religious text.  Many christian holidays are also of this nature , attributed to the same dates as various pagan festivals in order to over-ride the significance of these days with Christian propaganda , \n\n2. The Bible was written by hundreds of authors over a period of thousands of years , if we look at any other book which has the Bibles status , they have been written by one person over a period of several years, the original texts of the bible also had their base in many different languages , Aramaic , Greek , Ancient Hebrew , and many others.\n\n3.The bible was compiled by humans a Bishop and a council of his followers decided back in the 1300's if my memory serves me correctly , on what books were to be included and excluded , those interested in the true basis of christian belief may want to read the apocrypha or the corpus hermeticum , which are a complilation of Christian writings based on Gnosis and have as much validity as the bible if you've only read the books of the bible you only have been given half the information.
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Joshua.  People like you crack me up.  Really!  You argue about biblical-specific entries and events as if they were factual and undeniable.  "written 4000 years ago"  On what?  Notebook paper?  Do you have some copies of those 4000 year old writings?  Do you have some secret text that nobody else has ever seen?  Are you on heroin or acid?  What's your trip?  None of the authors of the NT witnessed the alleged resurrection.  No matter how you stretch it, there are no actual accounts of it.  Most of the NT was created and written in 320AD under the direction of Constantine the Great, and its puirpose was NOT for historic accuracy.  Its purpose was to create a doctrine at the Council of Nicea that all factions of religious doctrine could agree upon and pull everyone together.  Why does it appear that there only a few people that post here regularly who actually know this?  Is your only source of "history" the Bible itself?  Are you crazy enough to use the Bible to prove the Bible?  Talk about illogic!\n\nThe original poster is correct -- if the notion of god portrayed in the bible is accurate, then there is no need for "free will" -- God already knows how things turn out.  He already knows who chooses free will and who doesn't choose free will, how they act, and who the sinners are and who goes to hell.  He already knows the choices people made in the past and what they'll make in the future.  He already knows how things will turn.  Already been there.  Outside of the time line?  Fine, state it however you wish.  It's still the same.  He's all knowing.  He knows how the "souls" will turn out. There's no need for a test on earth.\n\nThe question is not flawed at all.  Your assumption that the Bible is incontrovertible is flawed, and your statements of biblical myths as assertion are ridiculous.  It is one of hundreds of unprovable myths on this whole planet, full of fatal flaws, like the one this question raises.
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Why not trust the original, the Hebrew Torah
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False. The Bible is a masterpiece of ancient literature with some good advice and wisdom. Your brain is the owner's manual should you choose to let it be.
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The bible was written by primitive savages for primitive savages, it has no place in twenty first century civilization.
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I would say people misinterpret the bible many times. They do not take things into context of the time it was set the situation at that time and many other factors. For example it makes it easier to understand Shakespeare if you understand those times. When we understand these factors we can at best interpret what the bible is trying to say and allow God to translate it for us in our heads. Are you talking in the bible or interpretations of the bible? And why couldn't moses have been 900? Just because we can't live to 900 doesn't mean he couldn't. The world had changed so much since then, the diversity of bacteria, diseases, animals has risen so just based on this the life expectancy of humans should have drastically decreased. Also pollution, nutrition and other important factors need to be taken into consideration.
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Regardless of what the more religious people might say, the Bible has been badly understood and misinterpreted since it was written.  Wars have killed many millions over the different ideas people have had and we, to this day, have many different churches believing in the same book yet not agreeing on it because interpretations have been passed down through generations and the children of these people have been force fed the supposed knowledge.  So we end up with a very one-sided debate with religion which we are supposed to respect, but unfortunately has lost much of it's respect.
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The bible is a book of stories passed down thro generations. Don't take it seriously
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I am not saying that your argument is wrong and you may have a point but that only lead you to another thing to proove. If you believe that the Bible was altered by comparing it to the Torah, how sure are you then that the Torah was not altered? Your statement indicates that the Torah is never altered and that's the reason why you compared the writings of the Bible to it, right? Now, why then do you believe that the Torrah has not been altered while the Muslims say otherwise. That authority is even being put to the test by other faiths. They claim that both the Torah and the Holy Bible have been corrupted. So, that leaves you another question to answer and I think you have to proove that too. If then you have proven that the Torah has been altered too, naturally you will have another option to consider and that is to revert to Islam and find out if it too is really a true religion. I wish you good luck.
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Give us examples of your claims if you can particularly for the Hinduism and Zoroastrianism. The Quran is a Book without a match in human history as its accuracy is down to the level of letters. After 1400 hundred years its challenge to all humans to bring a chapter similar to it is unmet and every day a new evidences of its miraculous nature is discovered.\nSee the following site for more info:\nhttp://www.islamreligion.com
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Yup I do and its funny in a weird sort of way how people will adapt what is in the Bible to suit their own needs. The book hasnt changed in a few thousand years I doubt its going to any time soon. Its all a matter of personal interpretation I guess but it shouldnt change every time you read it or speak about it to someone if you are a person of your convictions then it will stay the same.
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Mommy Chaos,\nLooks like you got some choices here. The Bible was written and complied during a period of time when life was a whole lot rougher than it is now.  Maybe people back then didn't have time for humor.
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YOUR "FACT" is completely flawed, I keep hearing so-called experts on television say that, and it's complete rubbish.  In Ancient Judaism there were always so-called "priests" that served as the religious leaders of Jewish society.  Many of them never married as they remained free of anything secular (including family life), often traveling into the wilderness and building entire communities that were similar to what we know as monasteries.  Research the term "Qumran" on yahoo or google as it is one of the most popular and well-researched Jewish monasteries that actually existed during the lifetime of Jesus.  In fact, Qumran was located very close to the caves that held the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it is probable that the very UNMARRIED Essene monks at Qumran authored the scrolls, as many of the scrolls outlined the lifestyle of the Qumran inhabitants in detail.\n\nFurthermore, if you read any of the writings of Paul in the New Testament of the bible, you will see that only a few years/decades after Christ religious men were clearly encouraged NOT to marry, as families would serve as distractions from God's service, and do you really think that in a few decades habitual tradition concerning religious men changed that rapidly? \n\nBut I DO agree with you that it wouldn't be so bad if Jesus did have a wife and children.  It's just that it doesn't fit at all with how we know Jesus lived. Therefore, it's just not true.  \n\nAnd as far as "The DaVinci Code" controversy, I seriously doubt anyone feels threatened by the novel and movie because they are "insecure" in their own faith.  THATS NOT THE CONTROVERSY.  I know that on TV the media is talking it up, and I know that some, not most, but SOME Christians have been complaining about the movie.  But it has NOTHING to do with their own faith.  It is the duty of any good Christian to have compassion for the non-believer.  The Great Commission according to the Bible is to go and teach the world the Good news that Jesus Christ is Lord.  That is something that should be held close to the heart and sacred for any Christian.  \n\nSO, I don't think ANY Chritian opposes "The DaVinci Code" because he is afraid for his OWN faith, but because of the damage it does to the possible or POTENTIAL faith of the non-believer.  It is hard enough in this world to spread the Word and to share the Gospel without these multi-billion dollar enterprises like "The DaVinci Code" working directly against you.  In other words, the Christian believes that he is already informed of the Good News, and so of course he does not feel personally threatened by a novel and movie.  But any Christian or layperson should be intelligent enough to also realize that there are plenty of weak-minded people out there that will be duped into believing the book and movie are fact, and in believing such a tale it is that much harder for them to become a believer; to become a Christian.\n\nThe DaVinci Code story is passed off as fact.  And it just isn't at all.  It's fiction.  Yet because people believe it, there literally are those among us now in this world that believe Christ was not divine at all, but a man that married, had children, and that such children prove Jesus was NOT the Son of God.  That's the danger of this story and movie that you see some clergymen talk about on TV.\n\nThat said, I am a Christian and I WILL be seeing the DaVinci Code, as any story relating to church history attracts me greatly.  I can't wait to see the movie after church this Sunday!
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The same reasons christians do, I guess. At least the hindus are more creative. How hard is it for a culture of slaves (biblical jews) to take an attitude that things suck for them now, but at the end of the road they will be rewarded and all the non-believers will be punished? That's like my six yr old nephew constantly telling me he's gonna beat me up when he grows up.
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It's more poetic junk in the Bible that you can really interpret to whatever you want it to be.  This bit seems to be more threats of hellfire for those outside the group.  Religion likes to use the carrot and stick approach to gaining and keeping converts.  This is one example of a stick.  On the carrot side of it, they'll talk about "God's love" and such (ignoring, of course, such contradictions as this).
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"But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like one day."\n\nFrom Wikipedia:\n\nThe medieval philosophical rationalists, such as Maimonides held that it was ignorant to read Genesis literally. In this view, one was obligated to understand Torah in a way that was compatible with the findings of science. Indeed, Maimonides, one of the great rabbis of the Middle Ages, wrote that if science and Torah were misaligned, it was either because science was not understood or the Torah was misinterpreted. Maimonides argued that if science proved a point, then the finding should be accepted and scripture should be interpretated accordingly. Rabbi Yitzchak of Akko (a 12th-century student of Maimonides, agreed with this view. Even Nahmanides, often critical of the rationalist views of Maimonides, pointed out (in his commentary to Genesis) several non-sequiters stemming from a literal translation of the Bible's account of Creation, and stated that the account actually symbolically refers to spiritual concepts. He quoted the Mishnah in Tractate Chagigah which states that the actual meaning of the Creation account, mystical in nature, was traditionally transmitted from teachers to advanced scholars in a private setting. A literal interpretation of the biblical Creation story among classic rabbinic commentators is uncommon (yet there is universal agreement regarding the literal understanding of the time of the creation of Adam). One of several notable exceptions may be the Tosafist commentary on Tractate Rosh Hashanah, where there seems to be an allusion to the age of creation according to a literal reading of Genesis. The non-literal approach is widely accepted within Modern Orthodox Judaism and some segments of Haredi Judaism.\n\nSo even medieval philosophers believed that Genesis shouldn't be taken literally. These creationists aren't trying to go back to the middle ages, even the middle ages would laugh at their folly!