Should the U.S. Senate be abolished for thwarting the will of the American people?
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On Passage of the Bill (S. 2611 As Amended )  \nVote Number:  157 Vote Date:  May 25, 2006, 05:39 PM \nRequired For Majority:  1/2 Vote Result:  Bill Passed \nMeasure Number:  S. 2611 \n(Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 ) \nMeasure Title:  A bill to provide for comprehensive immigration reform and for other purposes. \n\nVote Counts: YEAs 62 \n NAYs 36 \n Not Voting 2 \n\nIf you have been watching the debate then you know that this outrageous bill has gotten worse by the hour. Right down to the final minutes before the vote, Senators were adding language that further undermines our nation. \n\nFor example, the bill calls for "consultation" with Mexican authorities before the agreed-upon fence is built! This Curtain Call Of Treasonous Politicking Courtesy Of Your Favorite Frontman And Mine,  Can We Have A Round Of Applause For Senator Arlen Specter\n\nArlen  Specter  ( R - PA ) : (202) 224-4254 \nHe is a  no good traitor to Our Nation......\n\nClick On The Links Below To see the Roll Call vote on the final bill: \n\nhttp://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?u=788&rid=11106611 \nhttp://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/005732.html \n\nHere's your list of "Amnesty Senators." Remember - without these TRAITOR Senators there would be no amnesty bill!\n \nThe TRAITORS\nYEAs ---62 -\nAkaka (D-HI) \nBaucus (D-MT) \nBayh (D-IN) \nBennett (R-UT) \nBiden (D-DE) \nBingaman (D-NM) \nBoxer (D-CA) \nBrownback (R-KS) \nCantwell (D-WA) \nCarper (D-DE) \nChafee (R-RI) \nClinton (D-NY) \nColeman (R-MN) \nCollins (R-ME) \nConrad (D-ND) \nCraig (R-ID) \nDayton (D-MN) \nDeWine (R-OH) \nDodd (D-CT) \nDomenici (R-NM) \nDurbin (D-IL) \n Feingold (D-WI) \nFeinstein (D-CA) \nFrist (R-TN) \nGraham (R-SC) \nGregg (R-NH) \nHagel (R-NE) \nHarkin (D-IA) \nInouye (D-HI) \nJeffords (I-VT) \nJohnson (D-SD) \nKennedy (D-MA) \nKerry (D-MA) \nKohl (D-WI) \nLandrieu (D-LA) \nLautenberg (D-NJ) \nLeahy (D-VT) \nLevin (D-MI) \nLieberman (D-CT) \nLincoln (D-AR) \nLugar (R-IN) \nMartinez (R-FL)\nMcCain (R-AZ) \nMcConnell (R-KY) \nMenendez (D-NJ) \nMikulski (D-MD) \nMurkowski (R-AK) \nMurray (D-WA) \nNelson (D-FL) \nObama (D-IL) \nPryor (D-AR) \nReed (D-RI) \nReid (D-NV) \nSarbanes (D-MD) \nSchumer (D-NY) \nSmith (R-OR) \nSnowe (R-ME) \nSpecter (R-PA) \nStevens (R-AK) \nVoinovich (R-OH) \nWarner (R-VA) \nWyden (D-OR) \n\n And The HOME TEAM  \nNAYs ---36 - The PATRIOTS \nAlexander (R-TN) \nAllard (R-CO) \nAllen (R-VA) \nBond (R-MO) \nBunning (R-KY) \nBurns (R-MT) \nBurr (R-NC) \nByrd (D-WV) \nChambliss (R-GA) \nCoburn (R-OK) \nCochran (R-MS) \nCornyn (R-TX) \nCrapo (R-ID) \nDeMint (R-SC) \nDole (R-NC) \nDorgan (D-ND) \nEnsign (R-NV) \nEnzi (R-WY) \nGrassley (R-IA) \nHatch (R-UT) \nHutchison (R-TX) \nInhofe (R-OK) \nIsakson (R-GA) \nKyl (R-AZ) \nLott (R-MS) \nNelson (D-NE) \nRoberts (R-KS) \nSantorum (R-PA) \nSessions (R-AL) \nShelby (R-AL) \nStabenow (D-MI) \nSununu (R-NH) \nTalent (R-MO) \nThomas (R-WY) \nThune (R-SD) \nVitter (R-LA) \n \nNot Voting - 2 \nRockefeller (D-WV) \n Salazar (D-CO) \n\nThe battle to secure our borders and save our nation from an amnesty flood is far from over. After the Senate's Memorial Day recess, the bill will go to House-Senate Conference Committee.We Are already developing our strategy to embolden the House to oppose the Senate amnesty measure. \n\nWe can defeat this, but it will take a rising tide of grassroots Citizen Outrage in the coming weeks. \n\nPlease spread the word to everyone you know who is angered about this, tell family, friends and co-workers!   \n\nWEDNESDAY  June 14th National Flag Day All American Walk Out.  \n\nIn support of the American people, and in protest against the blatant betrayal by our politicians, lets make the country STOP At a Stand Still! If possible and it does not endanger your job do not go to work, do not shop, do not buy gas,Do Not Patronize Any Establishment We Are 300 Million American Consumers- the Illegal's are about 20 millionand the politicians have bent over backwards
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Why are the Germans doing what are own Gutless Senate and House will not do?\n This is an important issue and every member of Congress who is against having war crime trails or impeachment is a Traitor.
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This is a representative democracy, a government "of the people, by the people and for the people" my friend. Why in God's name would you want to cede that right to a legislator who only has his or her own interests at heart? Hasn't the last six years of politicians lying and spinning and changing the subject taught you anything?\n\nThere actually was a time when people fought and died for the freedoms you dismiss (Iraq does not count because our freedoms are not and never were at risk). But from The American Revolution to the War of 1812 to the Civil War, men fought and died for this country, "the last great hope of mankind on earth."\n\nDear God man, it's not just your right but your reponsibility as an American to know and understand the issues and VOTE DAMMIT the best way you know how - to have a say in the future of this democracy, to leave this country a better place than you found it. And you dishonor the memory of all those people who gave their lives if you don't.
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No.  Shame on us for reelecting the same people into office over and over and over again.   The people you keep in office develop power and begin working for themselves and their agendas, not ours.   We control how long they stay in Washington (aside from the Pres and Vice Pres).   \n\nLook at Ted Kennedy.   He needed to be removed 20 years ago.  Arlen Spectre is another one, should have been gone 20 years ago.   Just because they understand how government works doesn't make them good...it makes them dangerous.  \n\nVote people out after one or two terms.
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I don't know who started it but it should be stopped.  We should ALL just be AMERICANS.
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Impeachment and conviction in the senate are a matter of actual criminal activity, and not just because someone has a difference of opinion in how things should have been handled.  Get a grip!\n\nSue
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Until the American people All realize what Bush/Cheney have done regarding their part in 911, their hand in war mongering in Iraq & Afganistan and the Middle East, and their quest do remove the Bill of Rights from the Constitiution.   Until at least a big majority of Americans understand that Bush / Cheney are not interested in anything but toppeling our way of life in America, well we are basically doomed!
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This might be a good idea.... because if they get voted out by the citizens of this country then they will know who has the power to get them out of office, the next senators who take their place will think twice before acting!  I belive we have the power to change things if we unite and get it together, just as the Illegals did with their march/boycott.
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It should be part of the future of American politics. Personal responsibility is a value that far to many of us are lacking, especially politicians.
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The ultimate goal of most politicians is 'Money'! They lose every ounce of morals that their mother/dad might of had for them. We the people will only have more power if we limit the terms of the Senate/House, just like the president. Technology just hasn't reached the proportion that I would like to see if before I die. I mean, we the people truly governing our nation/ through what left a long time ago "a true country of the people for the people". But what do I know, I just remember the 10 commandments,and probably will till I die! Wish allot of the politicians would or could do the same!! Our job as tax-payers is simple, just shut -up send the money, and don't ask questions where it goes!!!!
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the Senate being part of the Legislative bracn has the power in conjunction with the House of Representative to to pass laws and regulation . There are some differences in the powers of the House and senate however. All spending bills while requiring passage by the senate must be initiated in the House of representatives the senate can amend an existing spending bill but can not initiate spending legislation. Removal of federal officials is vested in the congress but must be originated in the House of Representatives by articles of Impeachment. once impeached The senate holds the sole power to hold a trial and remove said official these are the powers vested in congress as a whole and how they are divided.\n\nthen there are the powers that are exclusive to the senate and are not shared by the house. The senate holds the sole power of advice and consent in regards to cabinet, Ambasador   and judicial appointees. The senate also has the sole power to approve or ratify a treaty with a foreign entity or government. The last power granted by the 16th amendment is the power to elect the vice president if the electoral college is deadlocked. \n\nAs for problems many would argue the pratice of filibuster which is practiced only in the senate is is counter to the democratic principle one person or in this case senator one vote. for for the Filibuster allows a minority to block the majority voteby not releasing the floor so a vote can be taken.\nSome also Might contend the original intention of the senate has been corrupted. The The house of representative was ment to be the body representing the populous The senate was put in place to safeguard the rights and sovereignty of state governments as a whole. the modern senate can be argued is much more a populous body than the founders intended.\n  \nI think this covers all the bases I hope this helps
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Americans are gullible, they are fed a constant barrage from the right wing that it is a good thing that they wire tap your phone or monitor your e-mails and then threaten them with the T word. So repuglicans being mentally diminished say I have nothing to hide and pass it off. Never mind that the constitution was written to provide safety to our civil liberties and is and has been eroded over the years. Soon they will mount cameras in you bed room so that they can monitor to see that you do not get to much of a kink on. But that will be alright as it will prevent terrorism. Some will believe that.
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Lobby to make it  against the law with very harsh penalties.  That would make them stop.
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Good question.  I think we should lock the Senate and Congress up on Capitol Hill, and not let them out until they figure out a way to help everyone that they're supposed to be working for.
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Don't wanna be a wikipaster, so this link here will give you some good information. the higher rated answers above explain things nicely as well\n\nhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Senate
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You asked why "NOBODY" cares to stop the corruption. The fact is that there were thousands of more people voting on the last American Idol competition than voted in the presidential election. Americans 'speak', every day. By not participating in the governmental process they are 'saying' that it is not their responsibility and they do not care.\nTake a look at some of the questions people ask on YA, and some of the answers people are giving. If this forum is representative of American society, it is crystal clear why there is a failure in the American civic structure. A huge percentile of the questions are unintelligible, immoral, grammatically incorrect, etc.\nThe questions are coming from people who are "educated?" in the American schools to which you refer. \nYes, there is corruption, but it might possibly begin in the homes where there are not 2 parents, the television serves as the parent, children are not taught manners and moral behaviour, and immoral behaviour is rewarded. In more eloquent words than my own,Thomas Paine said, "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one" , and Ronald Reagan said,  "The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away." \nAccurate commentaries, I think.
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The doctrine that you're speaking of actually says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."  The US Supreme Court expanded on that, realizing that the doctrine in the Constitution had no "teeth" without clarification.  In other words, they expanded it from Congress not being able to make a law *establishing* one (ie. a national religion) to include Congress not being able to make laws favoring a particular religion over another (or over a non-religion).  Who the people vote for is an entirely different matter.  First, the doctrine applies to laws and legislation.  Secondly, it would be utterly unconstitutional to disallow anyone not specifically defined in the Constitution from running for office.  The people of the U.S. have the absolute right to cast their vote for whomever they choose, as long as that person has the requisite citizenship and has attained the mandated age.