If one Illegal pay taxes then the taxes are being illegal too? just wondering!?
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I think your question is really a disguised form of polemic. I see what you're trying to say here, but you miss the point entirely. The argument that has been made by many illegal immigrants is that because they pay taxes "like everybody else" they should be entitled to the same rights, like everybody else. I take issue with the contention that they do pay taxes like everyone else, and I also disagree with any argument that attempts to connect illegal citizenship with a sort of moral/ethical argument that supposedly supercedes a nation's legal authority. For one, illegal immigrants do not always pay their taxes (often a reason why they are hired in the first place is because they do not have any documentation and their work is paid in cash, under the table, so that no one pays any taxes on it). Furthermore, some studies have estimated that illegal immigrants actually receive much more income in the form of government support than they actually contribute (i.e. they are net tax loss for the government). As far as your moral implied argument that illegal immigrants- by virtue of their tax "contributions"- are owed something by the US government, I ask you the following: imagine that you move to any other country other than the United States- say Venezuela, or China, or Germany- and using the same illicit means, you find a job in these countries and then make a claim that these countries somehow "owe" you something. Hard to imagine? Why in the world is breaking American laws any more moral or ethical than breaking the laws in any other country around the world? The entire idea of sovereignty is that a country has a right- and a duty- to protect its citizens and to maintain its territorial integrity- including its borders. That duty and responsibility far outweighs any supposed duty to protect citizens from other countries.
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ILLEGALS PAY TAXES and this is why there are so many.  It is impossible to become legal....it is called oppression in my book.  To become legal at least for the Mexicans.....They have to apply and wait at least 15 years for a denial or acceptance.  Lets use an analogy..  My child graduated high school at 18 years old....then has to wait 15 years to be gainfully employed....that means he will be 33 years old before he is able to become employed....what sense does that make....in the meantime what does he do to support himself?  Here are my thoughts on why this situation is as it is and will continue to stay as so:\n\nI don't wish to offend you but I do wish to inform you..... There is no TAX Free money in regards to the majority of the illegals.... unless they work in cash paying jobs ... like construction for example... Lots of people hide in the construction business for that very reason..... illegals are just working in construction. We have American dead beat dads who work in it too so they get easy money under the table as we call it so as not to pay child support. Most industries pay with payroll checks. If an illegal works in an industry that does pay with payroll checks then the appropriate federal and state taxes are removed. I recently did a spot check on payroll checks from the main industry in my town from 4 different illegal pay stubs..... 2 from poultry and 2 from restaurants. I did an estimate based on those 4 pay stubs in regards to the shifts worked at each one of those industries. I had an estimate of State taxes paid in to my state of $64,000.00. I did not figure up the Federal Taxes but you best believe that they have been raking it in also. Please keep in mind that the county that I live in is not ranked among the largest in my state. I would love to be able to do a State wide survey, but the problem is getting people to trust you not to use their information against them. You may be surprised to also be informed that at least 2 of these people had health insurance for which they paid for & utilized, they also had an additional voluntary $5.00 taken out each week as a donation for United Way Fund. I did no guesstimates on those donations, but just these 2 people alone donate a solid figure of $520.00 @ year which has to be noted as community service. IT WAS A REAL EYE OPENER TO ME. Please understand that the illegal does not file federal income taxes.... he does fall in a low income category and would be eligible to receive most of his tax money paid in as refunds... now do you really think that our government wants to make them legal so they have to give that money back ..... NO, of course not. The fence is going to be a joke. Who cares build the fence. The American public has clamored that they wish for this atrocity to be built. Then once all those billions of dollars are sunk into the building of this shameful wall......there will be no money for mass deportations...You seed this is why the government is building this wall... We all know that it will not serve the purpose for which it is built....They didn't even build a levy that could protect New Orleans..... the illegals crossing are just as unpredictable.....Build the fence so they will be able to say later well we don't have the money now for deportations.......Also you will see discounts on ladders on the other side of the border. You just need a ladder to safely scale the wall without a scratch. .THE POLITICIANS DO NOT WANT TO SEND THE ILLEGAL BACK
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well, when illegal immigrants work in the US, the gov't doesn't know they're there. And if the gov't doesn't know they're there, then they can't be taxed.  The problem with this is they're working and taking money from US pockets and enjoying American freedoms and rights without really contributing back to the American society.  Furthermore, it would help the US economy if they spent the money in the US, but most likely, they're going to send the money back to their family in wherever country they hail from.  Thus, both our social works that taxes goes towards and our economy gets the shaft. :)
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Not ALL people from another country are illegal . Just the people who come here without permission to do so and stay here and don't pay taxes.  Yeah, that's pretty illegal.  On the other hand, if someone comes here with a green card or something legal like that; it's all good.
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If people obtain legal documents saying that they will pay taxes to the USA then to me they can do anything they want to as long as it doesn't do anything bad. But if they're here illegally then they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The option to come over here legally is always open but unfortunately some people would rather live in fear than knowing they did something right unlike millions of other people.
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they are actually hurting themselves. If they were smart enough and realize that they are being ripped off by business who pay them below minimum wage then it will be better. The only time they pay taxes is when the go to a store and buy something because they have to pay taxes and they can't escape from that otherwise they don't pay taxes at all. i believe that they are actually focusing on the wrong topic here. The illegals need to be focused on getting business to pay them a fair wage and not below that. We are compensating by pay for their education, health and etc.
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Illegal immigrants do not pay taxes!  Most work for cash under the table but those that do get a check and USE a social security number fill out their W-2s with so many dependents(whether they exist or not) that very little or no taxes are taken out of their checks.
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The person above is absolutely wrong.  Property is property.  He will own it as long as he is able to pay taxes and the mortgage.  His business will remain his business as long as he can run it. He and only he will decide if he wants to sell his house or his business, the government can't take it away just because he is here illegally.\n\nBut he could get in trouble with the IRS if he doesn't pay taxes, but that has nothing to do with his immigration status whatsoever.  It is not true that a person here illegally cannot pay property and business taxes.  The IRS has the same authority over any citizen or non-citizen that does not pay all the business taxes.  \n\nSo tell him not to worry about the government, just make enough money to pay the bills.
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What a STUPID da*n question!! How in the H---\ncould all ILLEGAL people all be accounted for!! They're f--ing ILLEGAL, MANY of them have no documentation, no papers, work for cash, that's why we have no exact numbers on HOW MANY are here ILLEGALLY!!
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They cheated on thier taxes?
472182
i agree people think their not but they are even if illegal people come here they dont get things for free wath the hell are people say that they get free things that's bullshit illegal immigrants pay taxes or how the hell do they buy stuff they pay taxes to what i think is stupid is that they say immigrants get free stuff its simply not true
232883
Yes, they also live in the USA and they also pay taxes! We are all the same, immigrants are not aliens from outer space, Why can't people understand this?
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They need to become citizens so they can pay taxes instead of getting away with not paying them.  It isn't fair.  I've read so many articles where they've interviewed several of the illegal immigrants, one gentlemen has been here for 15 years and hasn't paid a penny in taxes!!! Then he went and had a kid, so he gets tons of benefits for the kid at  the taxpayers expense!!!  I say, make them legal and take their money!!!!!!!  If they want rights and privledges, they are going to have to pay for them, just like all of us U.S. citizens have to.
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Yep. We have similar problems up in Canada with another ethnic group. We welcome immigrants, if its legal. Otherwise they live for years absorbing money without paying taxes, and sending a good portion of this money back to their home countries, where it is no longer is able to add to the nations economy.\n\nBTW-illsuitedwan... what's your definition of illegal???Illegals do NOT pay taxes, they are paid under the table (illegally) to avoid getting caught.As soon as the IRS recieves tax information on an illegal, the department of immigration is notified and deportation process begins.  Unless unemployment in the US (and Canada for that matter) is at zero percent which it has never been.  then there are 'legal' citizens who need the work, and would pay taxes. Employers get away with hiring illegals and paying them far less than the minimum wage (because they're illegal), automatically putting these people below the poverty line. So how is this helping them?
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Nope.  My taxes are high enough as it is.  The key word here is Illegal.
725659
your right. i don't think Americans should stand in line to any illegal. this is are country. maybe every American should start working under the table, don't pay taxes. and watch everything go down hill.
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The half of this "can of worms" has not been revealed.  Not only do illegals grab many benefits but they also apply for Medicaid and Medicare!  Many work under false names/social security numbers and the REAL citizens get income tax notices for back taxes! One lady had taken care of her children since 2000 and IRS wanted over $15,000 for back taxes on money she had not seen nor earned in three states! Recently 20 illegals were captured and some nitwit at Immigration told police to "Release them!"  Police should have ignored such a STUPID reply as a garbled transmission...faulty fax...faulty brain in faxer,etc. Immigration Service is a haven for nitwits, loafers, and incompetents seeking an easy paycheck for sloth.  Thousands of businesses could be fined for knowingly hiring illegals and fine money could be applied to "Dropping them off in Chiapas".  Instead 3 or 4 got fines, the apprehanders need to be the survivors of a "mass firing".  Whoever is supposed to be watching INS goof off should likewise be tossed into a van without seats a-la Billy Dale Travel Office style...and taken to the gate, told to "So Sue us!"  Hillary Clinton style!