What is the meaning of all the trial's we must face??? Also why is there not one clearly correct religon??
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First, realize you are in a warfare for your soul. The Bible clearly states this. What do they do in war? They release propoganda, send false orders, jam signals, anything to throw the opposing army off balance.\n\nI will try to take all of your questions one-by-one...\n\n"What is the meaning of all the trial's we must face?"\nBoot camp. Faith is your shield, the Bible your sword. Learn to use it.\n\n"Also why is there not one clearly correct religon?"\nHostile jamming from the enemy. The Bible has clearly defined what is right and what is true. What is light and what is of darkness.\n\n"Why does it all have to be so complicated?"\nIf you believe that Jesus is Lord and Savior, died for our sins and rose again on the third day, and is coming again for the church. You have everything you need. The rest is either learning more about the Lord, or distraction and noise.\n\n"I know all this stuff is supposed to bring us closer to God but man when is enough enough?"\nHow does the smelter (Jesus) know when the gold is purified enough to be remove from the crucible? When He sees reflection in the gold.\n\n"Why hasn't the true path been made clear?"\nJesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." Can't get any clearer than that except for John 3:16\n\n"Each individual religon will tell you that "oh yes our religon is the correct religon" Whats the truth and why is it just not abundantly clear?"\nYou will find the answer to this question at my links below...\nhttp://schnebin.blogspot.com/2006/05/gods-word-proven.html\nhttp://tinyurl.com/rkuqy\nhttp://tinyurl.com/nyjzb\n\n"I would hate to live my whole life as a Christian only to die and find out that I should of been somtheing else."\nWas Jesus a liar? No. He was God incarnate and therefore unable to lie. So lean on the words of Jesus.\n\nJesus said, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out."\n\n“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”\n\n"does this make sense?"\nAbsolutely. Feel free to contact me for encouragment in the coming battles.
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James 1:13 When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone.\n\nSince that scripture is clear. It is impossible for god to try anyone with evil. We can see that the evil and bad things that happen are from Satan the devil not god.
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You jackass. the verse (8:68) refers to distribution of spoils of war. Now, anymore FAKE KORANIC VERSES I NEED TO READ?\n\nWho's the one embarrased now?\n\nEDIT:I want to make it clear. This verse is not taken out of the context because IT WAS NEVER IN THE CONTEXT!! It's fictitious.
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This one's a real hot potato.  And it's not something you hear \nso much from ancient religious institutions... rather, it's simply \nthe 'politically correct' way to talk about spirituality these days.\n\n   It tends to be expressed something like this: 'You've got your\ntruth, and I've got my truth.  You find a faith that works for\nyou, and I'll find a faith that works for me.'\n\n   Well here's my question:\n\n   How many conflicting versions of the truth can actually be true?\n\n   I'm not going to use this space to promote an agenda today -- or \nto push any specific claim of Ultimate Truth.  I'm just going to\nhighlight a very simple, logical reality that each of us, in our search\nfor Truth, must recognize.  Pardon me if I offend you, but I'm \ngoing to put it bluntly.\n\n   It's impossible for all religions to be true.\n\n   In other words, if Islam is essentially true, then Buddhism,\nHinduism and Christianity are not.  If Buddhism is essentially true, \nthen Islam, Christianity and Hinduism are not.  And so on.\n\n   How can I say such a thing?  Because if you *really* study these \nreligions, it will become clear that each makes bold, fundamental \nassertions about reality that are not compatible with the others.  \n\n   For example, Hinduism states that divinity is present in everything.\nChristianity, Judaism and Islam all assert that God is distinctly \nseparate from what he has created.  The implications of these different \nviews run very deep, and they are fundamentally incompatible.  It's \nlogically impossible for both views to be true.\n\n   So why bring this up, anyway?\n\n   Well first I have to make a confession.  I would *like* to believe \nthat all religions could be true.  I would personally *like* to believe \nthat all paths lead to God.  It feels good.  It's a kinder view of \nthe world.  It puts everyone on equal footing.  \n\n   But it just doesn't make sense.  \n\n   Truth is, by nature, exclusive.  There are always more wrong\nways to do just about anything than right ways.  There are always \nmore wrong answers to any given question than right ones.  \n\n   True?\n\n   And you know what?  This really raises the stakes.  It puts a \nreal sense of urgency in our search for truth, because it shows \nthat if we're not careful, we can fall for a half-truth.\n\n   On the other hand, if you diligently search, seek\nout the facts, and your spiritual journey brings you to\na place where the pieces fit in place - if everything makes\nlogical sense and it feels right in your heart - then you \nshould not hesitate to share your joy with others.\n\n   OK... now let's stop right now and make something very clear: \n\n   If we possess the truth, it doesn't give us the right to \nbe unkind to those who disagree.  It didn't give Bin Laden the \nright to declare Jihad, hijack airplanes and fly them into the \nWorld Trade Center.  It didn't give so-called 'Christians' the \nright to kill people in the Crusades.  It doesn't give us the \nright to be disrespectful or violent.\n\n   What it does give us is the right - and the confidence -\nto go out into the marketplace of ideas and *see* if our Truth\nstands up to hard scrutiny.\n\n   C.S. Lewis was talking about this very thing when he said, \n'You don't need to defend a Lion.  You just need to let him \nout of his cage.'\n\n   If you really do have the truth, then you have nothing to fear.  \nYou don't need to burn books or censor speech.  Truth is its \nown best defense.\n\n   In our modern, sophisticated culture, spirituality gets\nlocked up in a cage.  It's a taboo subject.  Discussions about \nreligion are not considered 'polite conversation.'  So nobody \ntalks about it.\n\n   The result?  People don't talk to each other.  They live in \nfear and isolation.  \n\n   Some folks harbor ideas and notions that make absolutely no
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Sadly it is a bit like that, let's try to keep it peaceful. My god is big enough to fight his own fights, it is his place to judge not ours, the bible teaches to accept all people and to pray for the lost whatever their beliefs. Anyone on here who wants to spread hate, you are not talking for your God but for your own hate.
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read the book of Judges, it is all there.\nand more accurate than what you will get here.
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Life is evelasting to those who will believe...\n\nWhat God did...\n\nThink of it this way... Imagine you're in a courtroom again, you're guilty of many serious crimes. The judge says, "It's a fine of $500,000, or prison." You don't have anywhere near that amount of money, so the bailiff begins to walk you out of the courtroom when someone you don't even know appears. He runs up to the judge with a check and says, "I've paid the fine for you." Now that the fine has been paid, the law no longer has any hold on you. You're free -- because of the gift you were given.\n\nThis is what God did for you by sending Jesus to die on the cross in your place. So that you wouldn't have to go to Hell, God sent his only Son, Jesus, to die on the cross -- suffering the punishment that justice demands. Then He rose from the grave, forever defeating death! The Bible tells us, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him, shall not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) If you will repent of your sins and put your trust in Jesus, God says he will forgive all your sins and grant you the gift of everlasting life. Just like the court case we just talked about, if you repent (that means to confess and forsake your sins) and put your trust in Jesus, then you will not have to suffer God's justice in Hell because the payment for your crimes was made by Jesus on the cross.\n\nIf you're not sure what to pray, read Psalm 51, and make it a model for your prayer. The words are not "magical," what God cares about is the attitude of your heart. When you pray, it should sound something like this, "Dear God, I repent of all my sins, such as (name them). I put my trust in Jesus Christ as Lord (to say Jesus is your Lord means you are now making Jesus the master over your life) and Savior. Forgive me and grant me your gift of everlasting life. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen."\n\nNow read your Bible daily, and obey what you read. God will never let you down.\n\nWhat should you read? We suggest that you start in the book named "John," and then read the one named "Romans." Whatever you decide to read, make sure you read every day.
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Don't believe we can have a trial w/o a judge.\nBut, can you ever pick an impartial jury when so many prospective jurors are in fear of death, or trying to hit the jackpot of eternal life?
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By the time I read all of the answers I realized that my thoughts had pretty much been covered. So kudos to all above me!\n\nBut I do want to emphasize what Snehal has proposed. One world........no religions. I agree with the answer that said that religions have basic similarities but that man has chosen to use their religion inappropriately. Wars have been fought merely over "interpretations." People have died for believing differently. Lives have been controlled because of those reading religion as a misinterpreted call for power. People are told what to think and what not to think and are condemned for differing opinions. \n\nI'm sure right now someone reading this is shaking their head thinking, "She has no clue what she is talking about." If it would stop with that, all would be fine. We are all entitled to have our own opinions. It is when someone will write me slamming me for my beliefs and finding  a way to avenge my thoughts by blasting me somewhere that we realize this is symbolic of our world's problems. It's not just because of religion of course. Religion is the scapegoat. Man can blame his judgements of others on the fact that they belong to "the wrong" religion. If we didn't have religions..........we would all have to face what we really are without the use of the scapegoat. \n\nGod? Well I believe we have a higher order. Does he want religions killing and disagreeing? *cough* Think about what He would write if he answered this question. :)
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Yes, that's exactly it.  \n\nJustice is an illusion of humanity.  \n\nGod does not need justice because God has no need to condemn us.  Judgment and condemnation are human qualities constructed by humans.  God needs nothing from us.  God is everything.
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according to Muslim law, if i am correct, is to not take another religion. (a religion he was probably born into) \nso when he leaves the 'courthouse' (or whatever it's called, i don't know) another Muslim, according to religion, should kill him.\nwith government and religion being so tightly connected there i don't know exactly how the government got out of killing him except maybe knowing that he will be soon.\n\ni feel so badly for this man. i pray for his soul to be protected (as well as his body). he must be strong in his faith knowing his future is so unpredictable.\n\nto be Muslim or Christian takes great faith. and to change religions at such an age takes great courage and strength.
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Wow. I can only imagine the flack you're going to receive over that imflammatory statement, but I'm sitting here trying to see where you were going with this question. I think you might be saying that if we all go off in different directions, we can't accomplish anything. If so, I can certainly see your point, and agree with it to a degree. God is not about division - he adds and multiplies. Sometimes we, His people, can get caught up focusing on individual styles and differences, and forget that He wants us to love and accept each other as opposed to judging. Our own human fallacies bring the division -- we feel inadequate so we must find fault in the ways of others. As for justice, I for one stand with those who don't seek justice. Instead, give me mercy every time.\n\nBest wishes for harmony :)\n~Tia~
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Interesting, but my translation says "God takes his stand in his own congregation".  (New American Standard).  We would need to discuss it with an expert in ancient hebrew to form an informed opinion, so take it easy.
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Temptation is not from God necessarily, we have a choice to chose to sin, and succomb to temptation.\n\nThe trial is usually what comes after we have made a promise to God or prayed, say, for 'patience'. It is a learning process to improve who we are. Some learn quickly, some are not fast learners from their weaknesses. If you get through the trial you will be stronger, and more clear about God's desire for us in life, as to our purpose and servitude, soldiering, ministering unto Him. It is usually a gift that we didn't realize it was going to serve Him and deliver others to the Savior. Life becomes more beautiful, it is a cleansing in your life...trials and resisting temptation. You will need to pray so much to be successful through trials and temptations.\nBoth, can be good if you do good and live righteous...temptations are\nnot desireable when you love God.
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HAHA I can see what your getting at. This isnt a battle that you can win. Neither can I. I'm christian but a relaxed one. People have their opinions and who am i to tell them different. I dont beleive everything I hear. I beleive things that i know however. And I dont know for sure that a god even exist. I guess thats the whole concept to a religious faith alone. People tend to take the bible TOO literal. Then things begin getting mixed up. I am a scientist as well, some things in the bible just dont make sense. But if you read a book that offered a way for you to live in a sunny nice beach, and youve lived in the projects all of your life...and all you had to do has follow the books teaching...would you take it? I'm sure you see what i'm getting at as well.
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Good stuff how about\n\nThou shalt forgive all sinners, however only in the most patronising way possible\n\nThou shalt threaten 'burning in hell', 'everlasting torment' and 'demons with pitchforks up your bottom' to all sinners in the name of the God of eternal love.\n\nThou shalt not listen, think or form a logical argument
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first one means:\na beleiver, who beleives that god is one and only, can not be killed or punished unless in those 3 cases, ( the ones mentioned above ). (everybody makes mistakes, and earthly punishment elliminates after life punishment, i.e. hell)\n\nsecond one:\nThis Means that god sent a message of releif to anyone who unifies him, beleives in holliness one and only, its not a contradiction since the Muslim Rule (the First One) was applied to him and as i said above, no further punishement.\n\nthere is a certain hadeeth, that clearly states:\nYou Can NOT be punished in Both Life and Aferlife, only one punishement.\n\nAlso, Some Scientists beleive that god forgives all sins as long as you beleive he is one and only, but The majority of scientists refuses that theory because it drives the muslim community to lack out and commit sins, and that wasnt the purpose of this message in both meanings; and we go with majority as islam was based on democracy;\ngod said: "amrokom shura baynakom" meaning your (your means islamic nation) judegement is discussed and agreed by you(you means all muslims who are existent to this decission).\n\n[edit]: Conrad, During the foundation of islam as you already know like any religion many wars have been launched, The meaning of apostate here in my opinion and through my understanding of islam, is this:\napostate here was meaning people who revert of islam and fight Against it, not just revert out. Only god can punish those who finds that he has no partners in his kingdom and then add associates to him.\nSo it doesnt say take islam or die, it just say, as you joined peacefully, leave peacefully, do not leave to be an enemy of islam.\n\nI agree with YaDa3 aslo, so take what you need from both of us.\n\nI am most grateful to your kind way of asking, and i shall respect you as a brother, peace and god's blessings.\n\n\n[edit]: we take islam as a science, There are Islamic scientists in every islamic country, some or most are imams yes, but we have islamic colleges, and we study islam as a science, through quraan, hadeeth, history books and books by islam scientists.\nadd details if you still have questions.\n\n\n\n\n[edit]: yepp, quraan is god's words to us, that was delivered through several occasions, hadeeth is muhammad's(pbuh) words, advices, commands, and preachings to us. they are really separate.\nto answer your question, an Imam, is a qualified person to Lead those who pray, you know ? the first one who is infront of the praying people, an Imam must be the least bit of a sinner, i mean they Imam should be the most dedicated to islam and not a sinful man, because our first imam was muhammad(pbuh), and to us he did no sins;\n must be a studier of islam, and must have at least at least on the very least a high school degree.\ntheir job is to lead muslims during prayers, preach them in mosques and salaat al Juma'a, explain to muslims the meanings of quraan verses and hadeeth sayings.\n\n\ni hope i answered all your questions, all muslims study islam on various occasions like from small books, tapes of preaching, tv shows, tv channels that broadcast just islamic education, and before all of that, by loving god and reading his holy book, he will make those he likes understand what he really wants to say.\n\nif you would like to ask questions again, i would love to be here and i would love to answer you. So make sure to contact me :)\npeace and god's blessings.