Has anyone seen "Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conspiracy" on the internet and what did you think of it.? I
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I SAW the plane go in that day. I was less than a quarter mile away and I watched it happen. I can assure you, it was a commercial airliner.  We were in an office building in Crystal City, just across the highway and we were watching the CNN coverage of the WTC on the Internet so when we heard the plane coming in (you get used to what planes should and should not be doing there, so close to National Airport) we all watched. We could see bits of clothes and things from people's luggage falling from the sky after the explosion.  This was no missile or bomb. It was a regular ol' commercial airliner.\n\nYou can't see the debris because it's too far inside. The Pentagon is not a single building--- it is a series of pentagon-shaped buildings, each one a little larger than the last, and built around each other. These are pretty big buildings and there's a good amount of space in between.  It's a long way from the innermost part of the inner ring to the outermost part of the outer ring. And when the plane hit, it went all the way through the first two rings and most of the way through the third.\n\nSo the reason you can't see the debris is because the hole the plane made is deeper than the length of the plane. If you imagine parking your car allll the way inside your garage, as close to the wall as you can get, then standing off to the side a bit. You can't see your car any more. Your car did not disappear--- it just is in a place where it can't be seen from where you are standing.\n\nSo don't believe everything you see on the Internet. Any whack-job with a video camera and Photoshop can build a conspiracy theory web site.
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*sigh*. This has been addressed several times in these forums.  \n\nThe conspiracy theorists really don't have a leg to stand on.  See the link below that debunks these guys.
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No, I don't beleive that it was a hoax, but I do beleive that there are things that our government has covered up. \n\nI beleive that planes hit the towers because I witnessed it and bodies were found, etc.\n\nI beleive that it was not a plane that hit the pentagon but one of our own missiles. Why...I'll never understand. There were no bodies of anyone on the plane and the damage to the pentagon does not coincide with any impact of a airliner of that size. \n\nI beleive that there was no crash in Pennsylvania either. There is too much evidence, or should I say lack of. There was never any wreckage found. No bodies! No anything but a few strategically placed pieces of fabric. \n\nWhat horrifies me is what happened to all of these people?\n\nI do not beleive in conspiracy theories at all, but after watching this. It has changed my life forever. I see you have a link to the 1st one. Here is the link to the 2nd edition. It's long but well worth it. Please watch!\nhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848\n\nI lost 2 very dear friends that day. I will never forget, it breaks my heart that things like this happened. \n\nI just wish the government would release the rest of the information and finally tell us the truth!
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Martin,\nI'll give credit where credit is due. I'm sure there will as many theories to 9/11 as there are for the death of JFK. And I have to admit, the documentary was FULL of conflicting information compared to what the current administration has told us. \n\nThe thing which struck me the most, was simply the way the buildings collapsed. I, like everyone else was glued to the TV, and immediately thought that the collapse was FAR too neat and tidy, and yes too similiar to an actual demolition.  Of all the points made in the documentary, that one resonates the most, along with the impact sites at both the Pentagon and in PA. Plane crashes aren't that tidy. \n\nI'll be sending the link to friends, and just like everyone else, they can decide what to discount and what to ponder.
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I completely feel you on this...I've seen that movie myself, and a few others.  There are so many questions, I don't understand how people can just ignore it...and in fact get mad at you for questioning it!  Isn't that the point of democracy, being allowed to examine what's going on and make an educated decision?  Don't let the mean remarks that you will inevitably get bring you down...you are a thinker, and that is to be commended!\n\nEDIT: Nikki, here is the link:  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7218920724339766288&q=loose+change
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i heard about this\n\na couple of days ago it was weird like 3 or 4 post came in just like this one "why won't liberals believe the truth about WMD's" and the like.\n\nApparently on fox Sen. R. Santorum went on and made these funny yet completely wrong claims that they found WMD's.\nWhat gets funnier is that Fox made a big deal about it, like a exclusive or special report.\n\nUnfortnatley, it was all not only misleading but desprate and sad.\n\nFor example the person posting this claims "500 WMD's" \nWTF right?   But they are not Nuclear or atomic or but canasters of musturd gas aquired before  1991. These are what would be and are considered convential weapons, note by the way they weren't used because they didn't work.\n\nWhat is also sad is the way the person phrased his statement "recently declassified"\nTo the average bumkin or tourist he could get away with lying like that.  but  March 2005 is more than a year ago.\n\nThe weapons we not usable. Deulfer had reported on these and still concluded in his final report that there were no WMD's\n\n\nThe dishonesty of the poster is pathetic because clearly these cansiter are not the reason our brave men and women in uniform have died.\n\nSecondly the presdient wasn't referring to cansiters of convenital weapons when making his case.\n\nThird the white house would have gloted had they found legitimate WMD.\n\nFourth Colin Powell is on record saying the UN speech was a sham.\n\nFifth, other than fox news, no legitmate news source will say this. \n\nhttp://mediamatters.org/items/200606230008\n\n Most uniformed, and gulible people,  "continue to ignore conclusive assertions of intelligence officials that the degraded chemical munitions found were not, in fact, in the category of "weapons of mass destruction" that the U.S. was looking for at the time of the invasion. They also ignore the Iraq Survey Group's (ISG) September 2004 final report (also known as the Duelfer report), which noted that degraded chemical munitions had already been found in Iraq, and that they were not proof of an existing chemical weapons stockpile or of a renewed Iraqi chemical weapons program. Indeed, former ISG head Charles Duelfer stated that the munitions hyped by Santorum and Hoekstra do not qualify as weapons of mass destruction, though they may still pose a local threat.\n\n\nMaybe next time right..\n\nPS Democrats were decieved into voting for the war, the white house present information contested by the CIA as fact...\ngo here truth seekers..\nhttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/view/
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Sorry to hear about your loss.  I'm glad that you are prepared to listen to our opinons on the matter.  If enough people research it, maybe we can stop the bloody bath that is taking place in Iraq, in the name of defending our country.\n\nMost all the evidence that is available to us, show that the WTC buildings were rigged with explosives. Our own government had motive as was well as an opportunity to do this crime. Here is the evidence, presented for your scrutiny. \n\nFAKE CONFESSION\nThe official government story is that the 9/11 attack was orchestrated by Al Qaeda, which is lead by Osama bin Laden. The proof our government provided was a video with Osama confessing to the crime. The problem with the video is that the person in the video does not look like Osama bin Laden: See picture.\nhttp://911blimp.net/vid_fakeOsamaVideo.shtml\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk519bkcLjg\n\nEVIDENCE\nThere are many other factors that do not fit the official story. They include, secondary explosions that were seen, heard, reported, and recorded by firefighters, in and around the WTC buildings.\nhttp://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=firefighter+bombs+in+the+building\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHz9YWVgJWM\n\nHere is a video clip showing a trail of explosions just before the destruction wave.\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_DkzhonpGY&mode=related&search=\n\nMolten, beyond red hot, "steel" was video recorded coming out of the South Tower just before it collapsed. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to turn steel to liquid.\nhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk&search=thermite\n\nA chemical analysis of the solidified molten iron,conducted by independent firms, yielded an explosive, called Thermite. Also found was a WTC core beam; most probably cut using the demolition cutting charge (Thermate). No core beams were left standing beyond a few feet high, for it to have been cut by an Iron Workers torch. Click on pic. to enlarge.\nhttp://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml\n\nCONFESSION \nWe also have a video recording, where owner Larry Silverstein, admits to demolishing WTC7.\nhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329\n\nTESTIMONY\nThere is also a problem with the Pentagon attack. Listen to this retired general, He says, "The Plane does not fit the hole."\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2VoUN-7RVU&eurl=\n\nMOTIVE\nThe New Conservatives (Neo-Cons), with the help of their friends, started planning the invasion of Iraq, shortly after Pres. Bush took office. Apparently, the plan would include the attack of the WTC buildings. It did this to get the support of congress and the nation, to attack Iraq. Read it from their own PENAC document. Pay special attention to the section entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" page 50 and the top of page 51, where it states we need a new Pearl Harbor attack to get the ball rolling.\nhttp://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf\n\nOPPORTUNITY\nWitnesses saw a work crew going into the WTC buildings with rolls of wire, supposedly for internet upgrades. Tenants were moved around while crews "upgraded" the cable systems. The Port Authority cut power to the building for a whole weekend, just prior to the attack; shutting down the entire security systems. Witnesses also heard crews operating heavy hammering equipment that left a gray cement like dust, in the building. This activity took place just weeks before the 911 attack: The Port Authority had released control of the buildings to Larry Silverstein, six weeks prior to the attack: He made upwards of $5 billion off of the attack.\nSee "9/11 Mysteries" video: Time = 1:03:55 through 1:07:00 and 1:19:55 through 1:24:09\nhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries&hl=en-CA
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I never thought I'd be one of "those people" who believed in who believed in some far-out "conspiracy theory."  Yet, here I am ... on the other side.  And now it is so frustrating.  No "mainstream" media or establishment will touch or entertain the thought that it wasn't terrorists who orchestrated the destruction on 9/11.  And as I now write and can imagine others who read this and "dis" this idea as one of those idotic conspiracy theories, I can only think, "been there, done that."  Yeh, I've "dissed" all those people as loonies.  So, for right now it seems quite lonely because it's hard to hang one's hat on anything tangible ... there's no place to go with these new thoughts in my head.\nOkay, I'm a democrat, but people, this goes beyond politics.  This is about being mislead by some organization within our own borders!  Sure, like everyone else, on 9/11 it was obvious that it was us Americans against some foreign enemy.  We were all united.  Why can't everyone be convinced that our real enemy is not across the sea, but operates within our own country, and for some reason created 9/11 in order to obtain their greedy and misguided objectives?
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i will watch it but you got to learn how to put a link on here for next time,highlight the address bar of the page you want to link to,right click go to copy,then go to where you want to put the link ,right click and click on paste alot more people will go to your sites if you do that.\n\nnot looking good is it .yet also the average fella cant seem to understand our western governments are controlled by world banks and so is the media . we are heading for a world wide version of nazi germany that is more of a threat to humanity now than global warming .\n\nupdate :itell you what changed in the U.S with KATRINA more people woke up to what is going on.fema wouldnt let the people out of certain buildings they were kept in for safety !!!! lorry loads of bottled water turn up FEMA turn it away ,a tanker of gas turns up everyone goes to get gas FEMA turned it away .the sheriff caught members of FEMA cutting down emergency comunication power lines ,the sheriff put the line back up and hadto put armed police along it to stop them from doing this .FEMA ?Federal Emergency Management agency !!! they go in make the situation worse then congress or whoever has the power to do so gives them more funding and more power as an agency .its literally getting down to twilight stuff here guys watch this link ,try and watch it all the way through, theres a mayor in new orleans at the end on mainstream news programme that actually tells the truth .would you beleive it!!!!\nhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7354448366688445862&q=police+state
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Find out the truth for yourself.  Watch the video in the link below.  It also has stuff about the WTC and about the Pentagon.  Its really interesting and gives us all insight on what could be a possible truth to 9/11 and Osama Bin Laden.  Tell me what you think about it after you watch it!
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TITO, do some research man, the kid from "Loose Change" just touched on a few points.  There's many more he left out, here are my favorite "coincidences" of 9/11:\n\n1) The recently fired FBI head of Counter-Terrorism was killed that day...2 days into his new job as head of security of the WTC.\n\n2) Each flight contained exactly 1 full-time employee of Raytheon Corp, who brought us the highly successful Predator un-manned drone as well as lots of "guided missile" technology.\n\n3) One of the flights also contained a former elite Israeli commando on the manifest, 2 years after his last active duty stint, who was by all accounts still in good shape.  How some jackass with a box-cutter took him out, I just can't see it.\n\nTo the asker, congratulations on taking the blue pill and welcome to the club, hopefully when we get an opposition party with some testicular fortitude in power, the PNAC turkeys will get their very own group trial for treason and mass murder.\n\nI propose that, instead of the death penalty, we export them to some 3rd-world torture expert country and make sure we know everything.  I'm a big fan of poetic justice...
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The "OBL and the 7 dwarfs" theory is probably the least plausible conspiracy case for the 9/11 attacks.  Unfortunately, it is the only one that has been investigated in "back-assward fashion".\n\nNormally, in a real investigation, you look at motive, opportunity, and resources.  You investigate and gather the facts on those things, and then you build a case that fits the facts.  You don't start with an instant conclusion and then work backwards to change or cherry-pick facts to fit your conclusion.  In science they call this "pathological science", where a mad scientist comes up with a wierd theory and then proves it with narrow examples...and facts contradicting this theory are summarily tossed out, changed outright, or ridiculed.  In law, this kind of theorizing leads to "kangaroo courts", where the "burden of proof" is on the defendent and not the prosecution.\n\nThe real video evidence, science, 1st-hand witness statements, and paper-trails all contradict the official conspiracy theory.  Will we ever get a confession of those that pulled the strings?  Of course not, but it is enough for Americans to wake up, see the truth, and those that did perpetrate the attacks won't be able to pull off another one.
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I've been spreading it around to as many people as possible. I believe 95% of it to be the truth. The only thing that I think they push the limits on is Marvin Bush's connection the WTC security. I dont think that has anything to do with it. But, having read the writings of Osama Bin Laden and having been very confused when the conflicting messages from him were given out, I find Loose Changes explanation much better than the governments. I remember when Bin Laden released a statement declaring his innocence, and I remember wondering what was up with that so called "confession tape". Having read his writings, he did not strike me as a flip-flopper or a liar. I dont agree with him, but he stands for what he believes in, and one of the things he makes a point of stressing is honesty.\n\nFor my part I believe George Bush and his administration are behind the 9-11 attacks.\n\n\nPeace
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I did, I also went to you tube and looked at the film clips the pentagon released, they were hokie.they have better footage than what they released, something is being covered up. that's the best they could do for a surveillance system?\nhow incompetent is our government.
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im not a zomby or brainwashed so ill look at it and get back to you with an update.\n\nupdate :the fella above was right the link was faulty but i found what you were talking about and yes this has been happening and is happening now ,im gonna put a couple of links on here to docu/films on google video ,they go in depth into this .its very sad how brainwashed people are and also how they wont even inform them selves when in reality the info thats being put infront of them for free is actually the reality of the situation . i think some just dont look at this stuff and come out with there ignorant bullshit and some are informed and just stick there heads in the sand .one things for sure this is gonna be on peoples door steps in years not decades if people dont wake up ,stand up and do the right thing. millions realise what is happening yet billions dont.\n\nTerrorstorm :a history of government sponsored terrorism .\nhttp://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230&q=terrorstorm\n\nAmerica freedom to fascism\nhttp://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=america+freedom+to+facism\n\nbohemian grove\nhttp://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-82095917705734983&q=bohemian+grove
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Sources:  Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Keith Obermann, Jerry Springer.  This came out today and I also heard that the UN was p'ssed off at USA also for having this crap on the "internets" At the insistence of bush and Hoekstra and some other congressman on the hill  Negroponte was forced to set up the procedure to get this stuff put out there for all of us and any interested terrorist to see and study up on.  Thank God bush isn't all that good using "the Google" or what else would he compromise in our "best interests".  The New York Times should be commended for getting this issue out into the open.
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html\nhttp://wtc.nist.gov/\nhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/05/911_documentary_removed/\nhttp://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html\nhttp://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html\n\nNow let's have a second try?  G'head, let's see where you go with it.