Question on millitary disipline?
544634
Simply because officers have to be able to send enlisted men to die. It's hard to do if your sending your friend. That would create a bias, and things like that cause failed missions, and more people dying.
381214
Deserters are not given a respectable exit by the army.\nYou have to go through the grill to be recognized as a respectable man out of uniform.
711971
He was probably micro-managing too much,i agree. That seems to be the American way since WW2.They need to boot them media schmucks out of there and take care of business.Let the military do what it was meant to do,break things.
996875
My husband is currently in the national guard getting ready to go active duty.  We recently found out that if you are not active duty the military doesn't care one crap about you.  Just remember, those who yell the loudest in the military get things done the quickest.  my advice, annoy the crap out over everyone involved until they do something about it.\n\na military wife.
55737
Yeah thats horrible that you would even ask that question. I'm assuming that you are currently in. It's people like you that make this Army weak, and headed in the wrong direction. You made a commitment to the Army and to the Nation, and you uphold that commitment. You are a complete coward, and I personnally as a fellow Soldier would not feel comfortable with you in. Man up and take on the responsiblity that you agreed to. I know of a way to get out, but I am not going to tell it to you, you don't deserve it, you deserved to be kicked out, dishonorably.
578148
First, allow me to apologize for the asinine and moronic answers that you have received from the self-serving, not-a-clue crowd that seems to permeate this section of "Yahoo Answers".\n\nSecond, allow me to congratulate you on your choice in serving your nation.  You decision shows great moral courage, fortitude, and the strength needed to allow the "children" the right to spout off about things they don't understand.\n\nThird, LIFE AFTER BASIC. *L*  It's a job.  You're daily routine will be something like:\n\nMonday - Wednesday & Friday: \n0600-0700 PT (exercise)\n0700-0900 Personal Hygeine\n0900-1130 Work (do your job) or Training (Infantry, Armor, can't always "do" their job)\n1130-1300 Lunch\n1300-1630 Work or Training\n1630 Released for the day (party, BBQ, go to the movies, etc.\n\nThursday:\n0600-1200 Train\n1200-1300 Lunch\n1300-1500 Train \n1500 Released for the day\n\nSaturday and Sunday:  Do what you want.\n\nI'm afraid I can't help you on what to expect in Iraq and/or Afganistan.  I was one of the few that didn't get to go to either region.  HOWEVER, you will be expected to DO YOUR JOB.  That's it.  Nothing more, nothing less.  \n\nAgain, congratulations, and good luck.
666039
Im in the Army also and I truely believe the Army is treating soldiers with less dicipline now days. For instance, theyre giving soldiers wekkend passes during basic training, letting them smoke cigarettes and now "stress cards", what the hell is that? Ive noticed with the new privates comming into our unit, they treat the NCO's very disrespectful. I know I got my a$$ smoked if I even talked back to them in the wrong way. The Army and the country is going to hell i swear! Everthing's so screwed up now!
1175090
One officer who is afraid of his own troops because of his own misconduct.\n\nThese losers have been claiming that they are the 'tip of the iceberg' for 3 years.\n\nFor a reality check - simply look at the Army's re-enlistment numbers.  If there were as many disgruntled soldier as you hope - the Army would not be 15% over this years goal for re-enlisting troops already.
160484
It depends on how long it tkaes to get the job done.One of the major beliefs of the military is to never give up and never surrender.Our soldiers are doing a wonderful job!I have spoken with quite a few and all of them say not to listen to the media.Our soldiers are doing alot more good things than the media will show and or tell.The ones that i have spoken too feel that they are doing the right thing and are working very hard to do what is nessecary.HOOAH to the military!
730867
Did not see the video, but it doesn't surprise me.  I glanced at a CNN's special on some of the troops over in Iraq.  One talked about why they joined the military after the war began.  He made his choice based on something his mother said,  " he had more of a chance of being killed in the area of US where he lived, than in Iraq", so he chose Iraq.  This got me thinking about the difference between WWII troops vs. more modern day troops serving in Vietnam/Afghanistan/Iraq,etc.  In hind site, those who volunteered in WWll did so with a sense of chivalry /integrity /responsiblity /a purpose to save the world from countries like Germany/Italy & Japan who wished to take over the world...eventually.  Todays armies are made out of a lot of people who have no choice or recourse to escape their livelihood circumstance of poverty & violence within a free & democratic country.  They bring their learned experinces & limited knowledge of resolutions to emotional problems (emotional baggage) to a war situation outside of a structured democratic country, that has  a deep history of sectarian violence, which pushes the boundries of descensy & tolerance.  Not to say that troops of WWII were not pushed to such despicable acts towards those they were there to help, which did happen, it's just that todays soldier has no emotional reason to "fight the good fight" as they say in todays wars.  They are considered professional soldiers, no matter their intellectual abilities, so destructive acts such as described in your question occur more & due to global news outlets, the public see's it more.  The troops of today fight for no cause other than their governments partisan cause, & are caught in the middle.\nSo I'm not surprised this occurred, & I do believe it did occur, but I don't put all the blame on the individuals who are caught doing such disrespectful acts to civilians, as they are a product of their own environment also.  But they must understand there is consequences to their actions, esp. when they as individuals are representing everyone from their country & the values their country stands for in the first place.
881872
Here's a start:\n\nhttp://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyjoin/a/armymilacademy.htm?...+admission.   But, the guys above are correct.
826905
I have been in the military for 21 years.  I love my country and would defend it to the death, but when I "go off to war", I would say I am more passionate about my brothers and sisters serving with me.  I don't really think about the political side of things.  I just want my people and myself to come back alive and in one piece. \n\nThere are many factors that affect how someone views war and the list is large, but when the bullets start flying I would bet most soldiers don't think of country, glory, or the reasons they are there, but the basics like survival.  \n\nI will put more in later.  Got to go help the wife with Thanksgiving stuff.
763569
The lowest form of moral depravity is to hold others to a standard that you have no intention of living up to yourself, this describes American foreign policy since the turn of the century. You ask a excellent question that challenges even the most die hard maniac or warmonger or whatever you want to call the mainstream American public. As for OBL, your right ,why(you need that bad guy out there running around to maintain your constant state of fear and paranoia when it comes to the public)
720684
I have served in the Marine Corps through both afghanistan and iraq. I will tell you honestly, We had to go there. We had to fight. There are two points that the military is instructed to carry out 1)Defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. 2) Defend those who cannot defend themselves. Now if your asking if we should still be there, I believe we should be there as an advisor role only. We should no longer be patroling those roads and streets that I had to when the wars originally started. Its been over 3 years since the start of Iraq and almost 5 since the start of Afghanistan. We should be pulling out faster and letting them decide how they wish to live just as we did after the revolutionary war.
1050377
United States Air Force  Master Sergeant  retired with 22 years active duty.  OK that's my pedigree.  And here's the answer to your question.\n\nYour son will be subject to being put in harms way.  That is the military.  We are there to stand between the American People and danger.  It is a noble profession and most men and women who wear the uniform will agree.  Very few civilian professions are equal to the experiences of a typical military man.  I was responsible for millions of dollars worth of aircraft and the safety of their crews before I was 20 years old.  Try to realize that at IBM or Ford Motor Co.  It simply won't happen.  So, yes it is worth it, but if and only if he does it for the right reason.\n\nIf your son is joining because he is an American, a patriot proud of his land and liberties and with a burning desire to do something to preserve that land then he is on the right track.  However, if he is enlisting to get money for college, thinks he wants to kill people, can't find a job, is sick and tired of being at home, wants to purge an arrest from his record or any of a dozen other reasons, it will be the hardest job he can imagine and he will hate every minute of it.\n\nThe purpose of the US military is to enforce our foreign policy.  Since the President is the only person authorized to make foreign policy your son will not be asked, he will be told what must be done.  That means whether on not he agrees with it.  He will not be allowed to pick and choose the orders he will obey.  I served under Lyndon Johnson, the worst micromanager this world has seen for centuries.  I served under Jimmy Carter, a fine moral man who was totally incompetent.  He was simply in over his head.  But it made no difference, while I didn't like either of them, I respected and obeyed both of them.\n\nMy wife and I have four children.  When my youngest daughter considered the military she came to me.  I was blunt with her as I am with you.  I told her that I would support any decision she made.  I told her I didn't want to hear her complain because she didn't get the job she wanted or that it was hard for a woman or she didn't want to go over seas.   The only absolute is the President.  When the Boss calls for help the military helps.  So if the President of the United States picks up the phone and dials 911 I expected her to answer, and you should expect the same of your son.\n\nI guess I was too blunt because she opted not to enlist.  A wise move for her, she wasn't acting for the right reason.\n\nI can be contacted through my profile.  Drop a line if I can be of any further use.  And Good Luck to your son.
988536
You obviously know nothing about the military or military life.  There's a chain of command just as there is in any large corporation, there's structure, rules and regulations to follow.  Post boot camp there's defense training, MOS schools, they learn codes of conduct and warfare and are held to a higher standard than sloppy, low moral civilians.  You don't see ANY service member wandering through Wal Mart in their pajama bottoms like you do civlian slobs.  There's an actual education to be had upon enlisting that goes well beyond the confines of a classroom....an education and lifestyle, pride in your job and pride in defending your country and the Constitution.
566509
Discipline is the military's game!\n\n\nMy friend you don't understand how the world in general and the military world in particular work.  One way to think about systems like the military is to understand a bit of game theory.  All games have freedoms, boundaries and purposes.  Freedoms are what you can do; boundaries what you can't do AND what you must do; purposes, the aims or goals you're trying to accomplish.\n\nIn the military, the primary game is 'discipline.'  Discipline is the ability and desire to follow orders immediately regardless of who gave the order.  Their name, intelligence, character, looks, creed, color, education, etc. don't matter.  Only their rank or seniority count.  It's acknowledged that there just isn't time or excuse for argument, this isn't your mother or your teacher this is your superior speaking. \n\nUnder combat conditions, discipline is often the difference between life and death.  (I know, I know, if the person giving the orders is a fool . . . following orders can mean instantaneous death) but that seems to be a chance the military is willing to risk for the greater purpose of ultimate victory) And how is discipline, this loyalty to one's unit, to the chain of command, and to the army in general created?  Glad you asked.\n\nIn boot camp, the recruit is torn down as an individual and generally only given praise as his accomplishments (shined shoes, sharp bunk, clean locker, marching in step, etc.) reflect upon making his unit more effective.  The tools for this breakdown and the eventual building up that follows it are the items that all recruit share (his body, his clothing, lockers, bunks, movement as a group, early classes, and hair in particular:  hair is a huge symbol of the differences between civillian 'scum' LOL and your trusted military friends) in common.  The recruit loses his identity when his hair is removed and he becomes just another cog in the machine indistinguishable from all other in most important ways.  Then only achieved rank allows him to move up the ladder in the discipline game -- gives him the right to make some of the calls.  \n\nYou show two things in your questioning:  a real lack of education and a real lack of appreciation for the nature and necessity of military discipline. I have the feeling that a lot of soldiers or sailors more committed to the service might not want to share a foxhole or call you shipmate.  I got out of the Navy myself as early as I honorably could because I didn't like the 24-7 lifestyle and the thought that my life might ultimately be in the hands of an idiot.  However, while I was in: I had many wonderful experiences, saw a lot of the world, and made wonderful friends.  I never, however had the outlook on discipline that you're displaying.  The military is NOT for you.