Bull fight of Spain - is it not cruel?
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Human life is superior to animals life.  No matter what any tree hugger says.  Maybe its cruel to some Americans but thats cuz most Americans want to save the damn world.  If you believe in Chrisianty then you have to believe that our lives are more superior... other wise... why were there animal sacrifices... why are we on top of the food chain... people wear leather shoes... people eat jello and its made from ground up animal bone... We are superior... or else we would be the ones wearing leashes.
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"Its the Pits..."\nthis is just another avenue, after i read motherload's answr "The Bull About Pit Bulls" my brain went dead...that is a a great title.
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Cruelty is the wrong word here. It would imply that the boxers themselves don't choose to fight, which is the case sometimes but rarely.\n\nUnfortunately, to the lowest denominator, boxing is only appealing for its brutality, but for most fans it is more than that. Boxing is about being in top athletic condition, using natural talents like speed and using intelligence in the ring. It is both a sport and artistry. Many fans, myself included, love a masterful defense as much as a good offense. A great display of athleticism without punches landed may not sound like boxing to you, but it's something any true fan would appreciate.\n\nI understand your concerns about boxing, though. There are a lot of injuries and sometimes even deaths incurred in this sport. However, this is due to lack of regulation - fighters not being required to pass necessary tests before getting in the ring, inexperienced officials, matchups of different level fighters. These are things which need to be addressed to improve the safety of the fighters.\n\nI do know the risks that boxers take when they get in the ring, and I was recently very affected by the death of Kevin Payne, but I don't think that's any reason for the sport to be banned - just better regulated.\n\nBoxing is the purest form of competition, a test to see who is the better fighter or athlete. It should not be personal. In fact, hate or other personal feelings interfere with a boxer's performance. It's about testing your ability against another fighter whose athleticism you respect.
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Batista~hells yes because hes the animal.  The guy shows no mercy-I saw him in action once at a live WWE show-mean SOB.
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If you can get to the South of England there's an Angry Bull art gallery in Devon that does a good line in enraged bovine pictures (it's on the high-street between the slightly annoyed cow cafe and the Steers and Gears Ox-and-car showrooms).
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Oozie, you can stay here for several days asking this question. But unfortunately, all of us here will just be postulating different kind of theories on whether to ride him or not. But the problem will still remain unsolved. My advice for you is to take the bull by the horns, ride him and let's see how he reacts to your ride. That's a pragmatic approach. And if you're not riding well, you'll have to put in more creativity to it. I believe in practice cos practice preceeds theory. Contact me through my profile for further discussions. cya soonest.
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I am all for animal rights. The bulls have been mistreated. Let the animals have their day.
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I take it this is a joke thread with ironic replies?! \n\nLogically, the title 'bull fighting'  refers to our squabbles over silly questions that don't fit into other categories.\n\nThat wasn't too hard, was it? \n:-)
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Any circuses involving animals are heartbreaking. \n\nThey are so cruel to those animals, as they keep them in cages, often do not feed or clean them very well, and literally beat them if they do not perform as expected (they also beat them in the process of training them to do tricks in order to get the animals to cooperate).\n\nCirque De Solei and the like are different, since those just involve humans performing, acrobats, etc., but circuses with animals? NO WAY for this girl!
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I saw it and just had to click on it. Bullfighting? I agree, WTF?
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Are you saying it's dangerous just because of it's breed? Or is it actually an aggressive or vicious animal that has threatened, and possibly even attacked people before?\n\nIf you're basing you opinion strictly from the dog's breed, you would be helping to perpetuate the current trend in today's society of blaming the breed, instead of holding the owner responsible.\n\nIf the dog has shown aggressive tendancies, you probably owe it to yourself and your neighbors to report the animal to your local animal control office.
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This one time, i disagree with santana.  I have been a boxing fan for many years, and yes, it is brutal.  Anyone who has watched arturo gatti and micky ward duke it out for rounds and rounds know that boxing is a brutal sport.  Anyone who saw the golden boy mutilate chavez would say the same thing.  Not to mention the nasty gash lennox lewis gave vitali kitchko or the HUGE mouse he gave hassim rachman.  How could tyson's cannibalistic episode not be considered brutal, or golata punching a guy in the gonads three times and inciting a riot, not brutal.\n    Most real boxing fans don't crave this stuff, we like the good matchups, the strategies, the phenomenal knock outs,  we like watching fights.  Personally I don't love I big bloody gash or some of the more "Brutal" aspects of the fight, but to say that the sweet science isn't brutal  I would have to be in denial.  Brutal is a relative term, too.  Lots of guys (and gals) who have been watching boxing for years and years (or have boxed) are desensithesized to many of the actions that would turn a cheerleader's stomach.  In other words, one person's brutal may not necessarily be another person's brutal.  Hope this sheds some light and gives a different angle.  Good question, thanks
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Bull riding is one of the best things ever, and it is way misunderstood.  Young bulls naturally buck and butt each other, and rodeo bulls these days are bred especially for it and they live a very good life and are well cared for athletes.  They are not forced to buck or tortured in any way!  They like it, and they buck because they like throwing off the cowboys just as much as the cowboys like trying to ride them.  1000 to 2000 pound bull against a 150 to 200 pound man?  It is about riding the bull, definitely not about trying to overpower it.  You won't see any blood or anything hurt at a rodeo except for the riders and clowns, and you see alot of that.  When the bulls go home they are treated almost like at a spa,  have lots of girls, are exercised, and have the very best vet care to keep them in top shape.   When the bulls get older and aren't as peppy, or if they ever do maybe hurt a knee bucking, which can happen, they are retired to the ranch for fun in the sun.  I love watching bull riding, but I would never do it, as it is way too dangerous, and the bulls are way too big and smart.  I ride motorcycles instead.
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To be honest, I have seen stuff on comedy shows, documentaries, evening news, etc. that showed female (and, occasionally male) broadcasters being sexually harrased (i.e. attempt at mounting, humping, and even ejaculating) by bulls, ortriches, camels, llamas, orangutans, chimpanzees, zebras, donkeys, horses, dogs, goats, etc. Pretty much any animal in heat that saw itself as big enough to give it a shot with a human. Disgusting, but it is how it is.
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Hahaha, so cruel and yet so just!\n\nI agree. Henman and the English team always seem so high and mighty, until they meet a decent opponent, then they flop.
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Origins\n \nBullfighting may trace its roots to Minoan Crete, where the bull-leaping ritual practiced by youths of both sexes is memorialized in the famous wall-frescos at Knossos. The wall murals show male and female acrobats confronting the bull, grabbing its horns as it charges towards them, and volt themselves over its back. This is known as "bull leaping". However, the frescos offer no hint of struggle or violence, and the Lunar Bull was a sacred animal commemorated in ritual and legends such as that of the Minotaur. Modern archaeologists tend to emphasize the danger involved in this athletic skill and may underestimate the extent to which the bull cooperated. A more likely explanation is found in the worship of Mithras in the pre-Christian Roman Empire. The killing of the sacred bull (tauromachy) is the essential central iconic act of Mithras, which was commemorated in the mithraeum wherever Roman soldiers were stationed. Many of the oldest bullrings in Spain are located on the sites of, or adjacent to the locations of temples to Mithras.\n\nBullfighting is often linked to ancient Rome, when many human-versus-animal events were held as a warm-up for gladiatorial sports. Alternatively, it may have been introduced into Hispania by the Moors in the 11th century, although there are theories that it was introduced into Hispania a millennium earlier by the Emperor Claudius when he instituted a short-lived ban on gladiatorial games as a substitute for those combats. The latter theory was supported by Robert Graves. In its original Moorish and early Iberian form, the bull was fought from horseback using a javelin. (Picadors are the remnants of this tradition, but their role in the contest is now a relatively minor one limited to "preparing" the bull for the matador.) Bullfighting spread from Spain to its Central and South American colonies, and also in the 19th century to France, where it developed into a distinctive form in its own right.\n\nAnother belief is that bullfighting as is in present times has its roots based largely in wars that occurred between Iberians and Moors. As history has it, a common war strategy of the Moors was to set fire to the tails of bulls which would cause the herd to stampede into opposing armies in a frenzy. This tactic on the part of the Moors created a need to devise a way of overcoming the oncoming stampede on the part of the Iberian peninsula's previous inhabitants. What we see today in modern bullfighting, from swords, horses, Spanish style, muletas, facing the bull without weapons as is seen in Portugal's forcados, etc., was born from the necessity of survival in battles against the Moors.\n\nFrench ethnologist Dominique Aubier considers according to an espistemological study that there is no relationship between the Greek sacrifice which is an agricultural ritualistic celebration or the Roman Gladiators and the bullfight which is in Spain of pure paleontological hunting origins.Dominique Aubier explains that the corrida is a 20 000 year old primitive tradition, and that the theory of a so-called Arabic introduction of the corrida in Spain is an extravancy. In the 18th century, the Spanish introduced the practice of fighting on foot, Francisco Romero generally being regarded as having been the first to do this, about 1726. The modern style of Spanish bullfighting is credited to Juan Belmonte, generally considered the greatest matador of all time, who introduced a daring and revolutionary style which kept him almost constantly within a few inches of the bull. Although extremely dangerous (Belmonte himself was gored on many occasions), his style is still seen by most matadors as the ideal to be emulated. As bullfighting devolped, men on foot started using capes to aide the horsemen in positioning the bulls. This type of fighting drew more attention from the crowds, thus the modern corrida, or fight, started to take form. Today, bullfighting is now like it was since 1
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Violent Tradition: Running of the Bulls\nCountry: Spain