How much do u believe that Jesus truly crucified..?!?
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Jesus was NOT crucified. When the jews were searching for him, God made his betrayer look just like him, so the jews took this traitor and crucified him instead.\n\nThe Quraan says: "And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain."
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He was crucified because the men of that day, the ones with power to lose, wanted him out of the picture.  Plain and simple. He was preaching love one another and share your wealth and turn the other cheek ( I do have a problem with that last one) and they felt threatened, so they put pressure to have him removed.  Hard core politics. Personally, I feel the bible was written by men to control men. Not in a bad way but in a way to set a standard by which we can live. And if we follow these standards, we will mostly, remain within the law and not hurt one another nor upset the 'upper crust's' apple cart. That is the way they want it.  Then and now. God did not sit down with Moses and have him carve out 10 rules to live by. (Only 10?)  Tell you what, go to Washington D.C. and tell the world what an idiot the president is.  You have a right to speak out, you may not be lying, and you certainly have not sinned, but there will be those who will want you removed. And you will be. Although today you will not be crucified, only evacuated.
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i don't believe it.\ni can't even see what so bad if it was true. where is the great secret??? so lets say that Jesus was married and had a child and that his wife was for real Magdalena, what's so wrong with it?\n\nanyhow, there is no proof for all of this.\nand me, i believe in God and Jesus for me is real no meter what people will say or try to destroy in my faith.
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Calm down take a deep breath there. And Jesus did actually exist He is spoken of in Greek manuscripts of the day not only the bible. He is confirmed as existing, what You wish him to be is your choice free will and all, but he existed. Hope that helps ~A~
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You've got it mixed up. This is the actual scripture:\n\nFor God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.\n\nNowhere does it say God killed Jesus.\n\nGod gave his Son to the people to show His eternal Love for us. \n\nThe misguided people killed Jesus.
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Christina-\n\nHey,that is my name, too! LOL. \n\nGreat question! I guess maybe we just need to have faith and believe that Jesus and God did what they did for the right reason. And, I think that they did. I mean, we wouldn't be here right now if Jesus didn't get crucified for us. We would die and go straight to you-know-where.
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No!  Even secular history has recorded the crucifixion of Jesus.\n\nPontius Pilate wrote a letter to Caesar after Jesus Christ was crucified and rose from the dead.  The letter was found by a man named Rev WD Mahan at the Vatican in Rome, Itlay.  This letter was reproduced in a book Rev Mahan wrote in 1887 titled "The Archko Volume".  The excertps quoted below  are from the Archko Volume on pages 141, 142, 145, 147 and was written in a book titled, "The Genesis Factor" written by Yacov Rambsel on pages 102, 105-106.\n\nExcerpts from Pontius Pilate's letter to Ceasar recorded in the Archko Volume:\n\nDescribing the mob at the crucifixion (pg 141):\n\n"Often in our civil commotion have I witnessed the furious anger of the multitude, but nothing could be compared to what I witnessed on this occassion.  It might have been truly said that all phantoms of the infernal regions had assembled at Jersulam.  The crowd appeared not to walk, but to be borne off and whirled as a vortex, rolling along in living waves from the portals of the praetorium even unto Mount Zion, with howling screams, shrieks, and vociferations such as were never heard in the seditions of the Pannonia, or in the tumults of the forum."\n\nDescribing the great noise and darkness at Golgotha (142):\n\n"A loud clamor was heard procedding from Golgotha, which, borne on the winds, seemed to announce an agony such as was never heard by mortal ears.  Dark clouds lowered over the pennacle of the temple, and setting over the city covered it with a veil.  So dreadful were the signs that men saw both in the heavens and on the earth that Dionysius the Aerogagite is reported to have exclaimed, 'Either the author of nature is suffering or the universe is falling apart.'"\n\nPilate quoting Ben Isham, a sentry at the tomb (145):\n\n"He said that at about the beginning of the fourth watch they saw a soft and beautiful light over the sepulchre.  He at first thought that the women had come to embalm the body of Jesus, as was their custom, but he could not see how they had gotten through the guards. While these thoughts were passing through his mind, behold, the whole place was lighted up, and their seemed to be crowds of the dead in their graveclothes.  All seemed to be shouting and filled with ecstasy, while all around and above was the most beautiful music he had ever heard; and the whole air seemed to be full of voices praising God."\n\nPilate's concluding remarks (146):\n\n"I am almost ready to say, as did Manlius at the cross, 'Truly this was the Son of God.'"
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'fly your fla...' was almost right, the Koran does say that Jesus was only a Prophet, and not the Son of God, it also says that Mohammad was a Prophet, not that Mohammed was God!\nApart from that I agree it is a load of cr**!\nAs to your question, if Jesus is "still alive" why does he need to return, where has he been if he is still alive?\nWho took his place on the cross? I really don't know and it's not as if Crucifixion was anything unusual in those times, hundreds of people (not only followers of Christ) were crucified daily, for all sorts of crimes, people were crucified and set alight to illuminate the Roman arenas at night, it was really no big deal. (unless you were the one being lit up!!  \nI can understand your interest, it's all a great story, but don't get carried away, it is actually only a story!!
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My core belief is that Jesus died for my sins.  Lots of other things race through my head depending on the day, time, weather, mood, finances etc.---but that remains my comfort and my deepest belief.
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The myth goes that Jesus gave his life to assume the burden of our sins. The myth is, of course, a load of codswallup. \n\nHow does the crucifixion count as an appropriate sacrifice? Quite simply answered, the correct response is; "It doesn't."\n\nJesus spent a few hours, maybe a day, in agonizing pain; but it was no greater pain than millions of others have suffered. In fact many people have suffered greater agony for more extended periods of time virtually every day since the dawn of Man. \n\nIf Jesus really is God (or the son thereof), then He knew exactly what was happening, and exactly how long it would last. There was nothing about the event for which he was unprepared to deal with on a physical, psychological, or emotional level. If there WAS something he was unprepared for, then he could clearly not be God, or the son of God.\n\nWhen it was done, He supposedly ascended to heaven and became the all-powerful ruler of the universe. This is infinitely greater compensation than even the faithful will receive, and infinitely less torture that the damned will receive.\n\n-SD-
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Jesus was not the messiah, and will not come back, as he is dead. Nor will he rise from the dead, or return from elsewhere. THis will be impossible for xtians to accept, I realize this, but someone has got to get them to see truth somehow. I might as well be speaking to a brick wall. I dont know why I bother, actually. Oh well. And if you think youre going to be 'raptured', then youre in for a rude awakening. Good luck with that...
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If ppl believe other Gospels....they should also take Gospel of Judas into consideration...
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I'm not sure which I find more hliarious, that Patzy calls your article, "bullshit facts" yet there isn't a damn thing to prove God exists that isn't strung together inconsitencies and things that are unexplainable, or the fact that MommaToldMeNotToCome has no ability to read the article and see when the article you posted in fact written.  Fact is, no one should be calling anyone elses beliefs bullshit.  \n\nAs for your question, it could be.  There is no way to tell.  Lots of people were crucified at that time and what happened to Jesus wasn't special.  He was one of many.  \n\nAnd Susenjungle, the Shroud of Turin wasn't used by mary Magdelen to wipe Jesus face, it was what was laid over his body after the crucifiction and due to the oils the body secretes during the ordeal made an stain of his face and body on it.  I have some good books on the subject if you are interested, let me know!  I love sharing books!
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It was really Him.  Remember when He was resurrected, He showed Himself to His disciples.  In the Bible it records that Thomas even felt the marks from the crucifixion:\n\nJohn 20:27\n\n27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.\n\nIn addition, many many people who were living on the American continent after the resurrection of Christ felt the marks from the crucifixion.
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I think "Jesus" if he was a real man..and if he was as they say he was..he would have died for nothing....because there is no one on this earth..who is walking the path they say they are walking which is the path of their "Jesus" and i feel sad for him..all they do is judge and degrade other people and i think if he is watching he cries for the life he wasted on them...
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Very correct in your conclusion.  Even those in Jesus time with all the proofs they had still did not believe in Him and a lot of those that did, did not want to admit it as they would be counted as His followers and maybe lose their important job.  Same today with all the evidence, many will not believe if a building were to fall on them to show that was truth.  The extra personal truth is that Jesus is a personal Saviour that knocks at each of our hearts and we have to but let Him in or not.
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I think that many people will start to pray for you from making a statement like that...\n\nWell, I can't realy convince you one way or the other on this topic being that it's not a forum for discussion, just a single answer for your one question...\n\nI can tell you what i believe...  I believe in Jesus.\n\nI can also say, there have been many people in the past that sought to prove Jesus was either just a man, or that he's fiction, and many of them, after everything, became christians...\n\nOne other thing to note, outside of current events (and say for the past could hundred years), Jesus being real, dieing on the cross, then comming back is one of the most (if not the most) documented events in history...   The Romans, who at the time didn't care about Jews for the most part, even recorded it into their records of history...\n\nThat's all i can realy say for now with out discussion...\n\nThanks.