Doesn't the U.S. government try to match up ss#'s on illegals' fake documentation?
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OMG! I heard on the news that your identity can be used and there is somekind of shadow record for the person using your identity. Apparently it's nearly impossible for a consumer to find out who and how their identity has been used. Only credit companies, I think, and the gov. have access to ALL the files associated with a certain social security number. I think that they said that it would be an invasion of privacy for you to see the other person's records EVEN if it is on your social security number. CRAZY Huh?! it's true too! (*_*)
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Call the instution first to verify that they are legitimate.  Why would a foreign agency be asking you for your SSN?  Which is only valid in the US?  Be careful.
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The taxes that some illegal aliens pay ,to social security ,with false cards stays with social security\nSince undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they'll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the “earnings suspense file” — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus. The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year.It will not be given to the illegal alien.
905435
Yes. have them look into it. there could be another person with the same name. have them match the SS # to validate the info.
645757
As far as taxes, it mostly depends on the employer.  Obviously, most employers retain payroll taxes and send them directly to the government.  The only difference in using a fake SS number is that the worker will never get to claim the social security benefits that he paid.  And someone who doesn't file a tax return simply won't get his refund.  Sen. McCain on the Senate floor today (5/18/06) estimated that illegal workers pay about $8 billion/year in taxes.\n\nAs far as "under the table" jobs where the employer doesn't do payroll taxes properly, Americans who do those jobs also tend not to pay taxes on the money either.  So it's more about the employers and the jobs than about immigrants.
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mlewis51 is correct, they do forge papers.  My mothers former employer didn't even know they had an illegal working for them until his family had a fire in their apartment so he was out of work for a few days dealing with the red cross and temporary housing.  During this time Social Security called them up and they found out he was using 3 different people's social security numbers, none of them belong to him & he was an undocumented worker who was here illegally.  The company tried to contact him to see if he was coming back to work and all of a sudden he fail off the face of the earth, couldn't call him, find him, nothing.\n\nThe website that mlewis51 listed is a very good organization to look up in regards to illegal immigration.  You really should check it out!  I get information via email from them all the time, I try to help out when and where I can, etc.  It is very informative!
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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR\n\n\nAppropriate Procedures. Unemployment benefit payments to illegal aliens can, largely, be prevented by more careful verification before a first payment is made. Following is the recommended general procedure for implementing a verification system. Specific procedures must be developed jointly with the INS.\n\nWhen a claimant indicates that he or she is not a U.S. citizen, the claimant should be asked to produce his or her immigration document. If the claimant does not have a document, he or she should be advised that no determination of eligibility will be made until such time as the claimant returns to the local office with the required document\n\n        Immigrant Entry and Native Exit \n\nLooking first at all workers shows that between March 2000 and March 2005 only 9 percent of the net increase in jobs for adults (18 to 64) went to natives. This is striking because natives accounted for 61 percent of the net increase in the overall size of the 18 to 64 year old population. \n\n\nAs for the less-educated, between March of 2000 and 2005 the number of adult immigrants (legal and illegal) with only a high school degree or less in the labor force increased by 1.6 million. \n\nA national unemployment rate of 5 percent is irrelevant to the current debate over illegal immigration because illegals are overwhelmingly employed in only a few occupations, done mostly by workers with only a high school degree or less. In these high-illegal occupations, native unemployment averages 10 percent — twice the national average. Moreover, the unemployment rate does not consider the growing percentage of less-educated workers who are not even looking for work and have left the labor market altogether. It would be an oversimplification to assume that each job taken by an immigrant is a job lost by a native. What is clear is that the last five years have seen a record level of immigration. At the same time, the unemployment rate of less-educated natives has remained high and the share that have left the labor force altogether has grown significantly. Wage growth has also generally been weak. Thus it is very hard to see any evidence of a labor shortage that could justify allowing illegal aliens to stay or to admit more as guestworkers. Rather, the available evidence suggests that immigration may be adversely impacting less-educated natives. The statistical findings of this study are consistent with other research that has looked at the pattern of immigrant job gains and native loses in recent years\nhttp://www.cis.org/articles/2006/back206.html\n\n\n\nThe U.S. unemployment rate today is at the highest level in 20 years. \nMillions of hard-working Americans who are desperate for jobs can't find them, and both the short term and long term prospects do not bode well for many American workers.\n\nThe economic problems we face would be bad enough if all we had to contend with were a recovering economy, the continued threat of terrorism, and increased competition from foreign companies. \n\nBut a Congress that should be looking for ways to help unemployed Americans is busy opening the floodgates to millions of new immigrants who take jobs away from Americans - and also helping companies take the remaining jobs offshore.\n\nIt almost appears that our government is committed to making sure everybody in the world has a job - except Americans.\n\nHistorically, the U.S. admitted around 300,000 legal immigrants per year, but Congress changed our immigration policies back around 1965 and opened the floodgates. We now allow more than a MILLION legal immigrants into the country each year. A small number of these are refugees; some have special skills not easily found here. But an increasingly large percentage of those pouring through our borders are undereducated, unskilled workers who threaten the income of blue-collar workers, the backbone of America. Millions more come here each year ILLEGALLY, and the government does nothin
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Its called a cashless society and yes it will happen. Congress is trying to push it though. \nNO I don't think its right, It just might happen round up all these 11 million illegals and start giving them the ID cards just might be what the government is planning?
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I dont think illegal immigrants can. In college they ask for social security numbers.
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It's for tax identification purposes for the IRS.  It can also be used with a drivers license to satisfy the I-9 form, which proves you can legally work in the United States.  Normally, on a criminal background check they use your Date of Birth and drivers license to identify you as the person with or without a record, not your social security number
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I totally agree with you! You need a valid SS# to get any kind of  welfare from the government!
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If I remember correctly from an episode of Lou Dobbs on CNN - in EXCESS OF 30 BILLION Dollars per year!  That's scary!\n\nGoy1012002/Stupidity_of_pride:  Why do you believe that using a fake Soc Sec number and being an illegal, gives you the RIGHT to the same benefits that LEGAL Citizens (Immigrants or not)?  If people would come in the right way, pay taxes with their 'real number', then most all I know would have NO PROBLEM with you or anyone else getting services that 'any othe tax payer would get'.  When you are not paying taxes LEGALLY because you are an Illegal...... you kinda missed the point.  You are entitled to services when you become an American Citizen, not before and not until, I don't care how many taxes you have paid, you aren't documented.  End of story!
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my short answer: No. if you require all protesters to sign up with identification, and records are kept, it could lead down a very dangerous path with the government; it could be used to track down people against the current regime or any regime. Once tracked down, it wouldn't be very hard for the government to jail them indefinatly under certain current acts
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Thats too bad, Im sorry to hear that and hope youre feeling better.  No, it is not fair and realize that illegals are a big drain on government funded programs, that is why I cannot stress enough that we need to have a  better screening system implemented so that at the time of application for these benefits the people using fake ss#s will be denied upon application thus reducing the amount of illegals defrauding the system.  I also feel however, that all employers MUST be required to offer health insurance to its employees always.  Good luck.
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If idiots could fly, this would be an airport! All these illegal supporters - listen to yourselves! You want to blame other people for the illegals getting bogus SS cards? Law abiding citizens (Pancha, pay attention!) will say no to a criminal act, whereas the criminal does what comes naturally to them - they break the law! Enter illegally... get bogus SS cards & screw over law abiding Americans... try to downplay it by saying it's minimal... this is what we law abiding people call the "criminal mentality". And yes, you all have it! Have a nice night!
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Absolutely! If employers were (they are suppose to)made to check ss# and other forms of pos. ID and pay legal wages,americans would be more than willling to do the work the gov. claims they won't.I haven't known anyone who wants to be on WELFARE.
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there is no chance they need ss# and A...# sorry try I-485 www.uscis.gov it might help