Who do you think is winning the 'war' Iraq or America?
445706
I dont think any one side is winning. I believe that the U.S. should bring the troops home and stay out of other people's business.
153858
Milatarily, America can win any winable war...\npoliticly, and psycologicly, we are loosing, because we are ethnocentric, and think that every human bieng on earth is like us. Simply not the case.\n\nIraq is not a war we started, it was one we created, our enemy is mobile, and instead of just fighting terrorists in Afganastn, they will follow our military, many fighting in Iraq are forign to that country.\n\nAs for stay the coarse, it means to finish wat we started, wich i agree with, because to just duck n' run would only make things worse, I was against the war from day one, but if we leave now, it will destabilize (even more than it has) , and undergo at least one, if not a series of revolutions, resulting in hardliner theocracy worse than Iran, and any other current country you can think of combined.\n\nIt is not the easy choice to stay, Republicans would have you belive that it will only take a few years to transform Iraq, then it's one to the next war. This is simply not the case, as history has shown us, with examples like the philipines, it takes many years to radicly transform a nation. I belive that to bring about true democracy in Iraq, we will be there at least 30-60 YEARS!\n\nBottom line...\nWhat happened to a small part of the Iraqi population was terrible under sadam, but the majority of Iraqis were more content with life then than they are now.\nNot everyone dreams of playng baseball, listening to Garth Brooks and driving a ford (not that there is anything wrong with that!).\n\ngoring (see below) wrote - "note we are his subjects" WHAT THE F#*%, do you realy think the president is a KING!?
46392
they only have to win the "hearts and minds" of the Sunnis now, the Shittes and Kurds are peaceful, so far all of the bombings occour in the Sunni area (they account for 20% of Iraq's population) the US is also planning to withdraw 50,000 soldiers by the end of next year since the new government is in place and some Iraqi security forces have been trained.\n\nThere is no clearly defined victory in this case, we could (techinically) declare victory and leave but if we did that Iraq would be left in a state of turmoil which would hit the popularity level of the US more than if we stayed. The only way out is to get the people over there to work togeather, then we can leave them alone(until they start killing again).\n\nIraq cannot be compared to Vietnam since Vietnam had a clearly defined enemy that was clearly being defeated when media images of death and destruction reached the US. When we left all that was left defending Vietnam was a 1 million strong South Vietnamnese military(although corrupt could have won the war with US support within a month of the first US withdrawals) We in essensce abandoned South Vietnam when North Vietnam forces were weak and gave the communists enough time to recuperate and finally take down the corrupt South Vietnamnese military.\n\nPeople have no confidence in the US military, although the Generals did not have everything they wanted going into this war we can still bring "victory" this war isnt something we can pull out from easily because no matter what we do there are adverse effects. Although it wasnt very smart to fight in the first place, we are forced to go through with it.
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Oh wait, you forgot about the Iraq war.\n\nBTW, no one wins in a war.
998026
I dont blame mass majority of Americans who has been brainwashed and screwed big time by the White House, CNN and media as a whole! But then who control press/media in USA?\nThe war is superficial to begin with. I hope Americans especially those who support Republicans realize that the war is to maintain status quo of  politicians, oil-based companies connected to Bush's family!
632902
I think it will be like Vietnam where the US won militarily in terms of the number of enemy troops/insurgents that were killed(US lost 58,000 soldiers, Viet Cong lost over 1.5 million) but did not acheive its goal to stop the communist takeover of Vietnam. The US will no doubt kill dozens of insurgents for every soldier it loses in Iraq but public opinion in the States will eventually lead to troop withdrawal and the insurgents may overthrow the undefended and overwhelmed democratic government and install a theocracy like Iran
771577
Yes, our military involvement in Iraq will end, whether it's called a war, police action, or whatnot. At the very least, a president -- likely not the current one -- will simply declare victory, or mission accomplished, and then pull the troops out. Very much like what occurred in Vietnam. But if we settle for this sort of "victory," we may well face dire consequences as a result. \n\nI certainly hope we are able to bring our troops home after they have truly accomplished their mission. Are they very far away from doing that? From the news reports it certainly seems a distant thing.
69232
The United States is in a pickle. The President has attached much of America's international prestige to the wagon of success in Iraq.\n\nThe trouble is, the President has never clearly stated which marker will indicate "Success" has taken place. And as a result, insurgents and terrorists have been depleting and demoralizing American and Iraqi forces with roadside bombs, rocket launchers, and car bombs. \n\nAmerica's prestige was further depleted when it became clear that the causus belli, the weapons of Mass Destruction, did not seem to be there.\n\nHowever, at the same time, the US can hardly afford to just "get out." Colin Powell was right about quoting the pottery barn rule - "you break it, you buy it."\n\nSo over the next few months, the US will have to state what it believes "victory" to be, create the appearance that that victory has taken place, and then get out ASAP! :-)
1153386
It is my opinion that we should start allowing the Iraqi Army to take control (Of course when ready).  NATO has been a great help in the Global War on Terrorism, by taking a majority of a sector in Afganistan.  Coalition Forces are in Iraq, still to this day... The Republic of Georgia, Britain, Japan, Korea, the list goes on.... You go to remember, it a team effort there in Iraq... though I can't wait for the day we can hand the reigns over to the Iraqi Security Forces and go home to the family.
47621
Technically, the war in Iraq has ended...so it all depends on which perspective you are looking at the situation from. Personally, as an Iraqi, I can say that our country has been rid of Saddam and politics are moving rapidly-elections, the constitution, and now the most legitimate government is being formed within the Middle East. As soon as suicide bombers become fewer and fewer the quicker the 'war' will be over, troops can go back home (I'm sure Americans don't want to stay any minute longer than necessary after the job is done), and Iraq's economy will build. Anyone will tell you it's only a matter of security-once that is upheld- the war will be over. The war with terrorists will not end anytime soon unfortunately, but that's not just in Iraq dear...that's all over the world. So the real question is when will this radical and bastardized version of Islam be wiped out-the answer is to finish off with the Mullahs who are preaching hatred and violence all in the name of Islam (which really is a peaceful religion)to young boys and girls and then telling them to go kill themselves in the name of this tainted version of Islam they have created.
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Still comparing things that are irrelevant to each other?\n\nBy the way, when did we take Iraq?  Seems to me the fighting is still going, despite "Mission Accomplished."
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We won a military victory.\n\nUnfortunately, this means very little. We've lost by just about any other account.\n\nFrom reading the other answers, there are still a fair number of people who believe that Iraq had something to do with terrorism. But that just isn't true. Saddam did not tolerate groups like Al Queada because extremist groups represented a threat to his power. Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. And Iraq had no WMDs.\n\nThis is all stated very clearly in the bi-partisan congressional report, which you can go and read if you'd like.\n\nAnother congressional report that the 9-11/Iraq believers should read is the congressional terrorism report. Terrorism has increased world-wide since the invasion, so again we have not won on that front.\n\nWe've also dumped over $500 billion into this effort and have nothing to show for it as far as remuneration goes. The government has had to borrow more money from countries like China to pay for it since there isn't enough tax revenue to cover it, ploughing us further into debt. So we have not won on the economic front.\n\nFrom a political standpoint, we've spit in the face of the UN and burned all our political capital we had. We ignored our allies. Everyone was warning against this. And still we went in. Our credibility is now quite low throughout the world, especially in the Middle East. Again, no victory there.\n\nFrom a humanitarian view, we've lost. The people view us occupiers, not rebuilders. Tensions are high. Thousands have been killed, with more dying every day. It is now looking quite probable that a civil war is in progress and gaining momentum. The CIA predicted this was a likely outcome two years ago.\n\nAll of this could have been avoided if:\n\nA) We didn't go in in the first place. The policy of premption is at best a double-edged sword and at worst an excuse for empire building (see Nazi Germany for an example).\n\nB) If a plan had been developed to win the peace. We didn't have one, or at least not one that was feasible. From looking at the old videos of the time, there seemed to be the notion that the Iraqi's would welcome us with flowers and then join together in harmony and democracy. I find this amusing considering the place has been a hotbed of religious conflict for at least the past 1000 years.\n\nIn the end, we can claim a military victory. But we can claim little else.\n\n~X~
805045
i didnt really get the question..are you asking about winning and losing? \nwell .. from my point of view..the war in iraq is bad for you americans as much as it's bad for us..i get so much hurt just to see these young gentelmen  upon their tanks when i walk around in baghdad..and i get so much more hurt when i talk to them..when i see that they all have families waiting for them,and when i see the hope in their eyes for getting back there alive..i wish i can do anything to help them..\non the other hand..we iraqis are getting killed for something we didnt do..al-Qaida is eating us from one side and the american government is eating the other side..\nsimply..it's a war between bush and al-Qaida in a place that none of them is hurt..only innocent americans & iraqis are ...
960364
It is B S.  The terrorists won when the US government went into Iraq (which has never been part of the war on terror as Saddam had no links, in fact hated, extremist organizations) without a plan.  By starting that war the US government lost global respect by botching it ever since the US government lost the respect of the people.\n\nThe simple fact that the GOP has lead a do nothing congress for so long has lead to their own demise. They need to suck it up and admit they themselves lost the support of the people and stop blaming terrorists.
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attack Iran and N. Korea at the same time and win?\n\nlike you are "winning" in Iraq?\n\n.. NEWSFLASH both the aforementioned have better equipped armies than Iraq, possibly nukes - and seeing as how the US has squandered most of its post 9-11 int'l good will, you won't have many allies..\n\nstudy your history.. too many fronts, overextended - taht's always how the Empires fall, from Genghis Khan to the Romans to Hitler to Napoleon....
491700
Iran for sure because after Afghanistan and Iraq wars USA is quite tired and short of supplies and even a Friend countries
678389
Why are Americans in Iraq?  Poor intelligence agency and poor leadership.\nWho's next?  Iran.  There's no way we are going to learn from our mistakes and choose to not invade a country that supposedly has nuclear weapons.