What do you think about goths and emos?
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Their style of dress and behavior (out of the norm) demands attention and then, when you are caught looking at them, they want to kill you...\n\nI find them to be a major annoyance, just a wrench in the machine - never contributing to anything - just negative, negative, negative!\n\nand if you read this - get a life - you are NOT ORIGINAL, you are a cliche!!!
191284
Back when Marilyn Manson was an unknown and I was a punk rocker, I liked him.  Since then, I've gotten bored with his music.  Most goths dislike him not for his music, but for the fact that he's thought by many to be gothic, which he most certainly isn't.  His style of dress is more glam, a la KISS, while his music is heavy metal.\n\nGoths always hate to be stereotyped, and even worse is to have the stereotype set by someone who isn't even goth.  Then there's the whole issue with popularity.  Marilyn Manson is popular, while goths are part of a counter culture.  So goths feel they must distance themselves from anything popular in the mainstream, which accounts for their dislike of his music.\n\nTruth be told, if Marilyn Manson were a relative unknown in the music world, goths wouldn't care much about him. Some would like him, most wouldn't, but there wouldn't be a big arrgument about it either way.  The whole issue here is popular image, and goths don't like either one of those words.
67822
what kind of gothic are you and why do you think you are different from others
1125439
I'm not, (only 24) but my husband and most of my friends are.  Some wear band t-shirts and black jeans, some wear nice tailored clothing in black, and some just go all out and wear uber goth clothes.  For some reason, people don't mind as much when you're an older goth, they just think you're dressed up for something or have a job that requires that outfit.  For the goths that I know who don't appear to be goths at their work (like a high school teacher I know) they're just themselves at all times, and don't care if their clothes aren't "goth enough."  Most older goths have normal lives, many are married, most have regular jobs, but most also enjoy expressing themselves through various art forms such as sculpture, poetry, and painting.
427325
These are stereotypes, so this can only be based on opinion and society... so please nobody say I said something wrong or "hey, I'm goth/emo and I'm not _____".\n\nGoths are usually people who dress in black and hate other people. They only open up to few people. They do not show off their hate or sadness. They wear dark makeup, but they don't necessarialy scribble all over their faces. The girls wear skirts a lot. Fishnets are also "gothy". Boys and girls both wear baggy pants with chains. Real goths would never call themselves goth, and if someone was to call them as such they may get angry. The feeling of goth is more of anger.\n\nEmos are pretty much people trying to be goth. They write dramatic poems and many are "cutters". They basically show off their emotion. They can wear black, but they also wear tight, tight, tight pants a lot. It is usually said that the emo boys "steals their sister's makeup and jeans". They are also usually vegan or vegetarian. They too wear dark makeup, but a lot of times it's eyeliner lines representing crying. Most emos will call themselves emo, but a lot of times people will be like "Giggle!! I'm so emo!!" but they're just posers. The feeling of emo is a lot more sad than goth.
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I think the world is filled with more emos each passing day right down to my best knowledge in Singapore, Australia, America and so on so forth. I think, as a society, we need to understand why they fall in this category of society. They may be going through really suffering pressure the world gave to them and might be confused of what to feel towards such certain things therefore they seeked to being emo. Of course such society groups have certain fashion to their own beliefs. Tell me which doesn't? And I must also say, they do dress well but sometimes they scare off my little cousins which are afraid of black. Children should not be exposed to black too much in their childhood years.\n\nI think the question here is not emo being credited. There should be no question at all, indeed. It's just a phase or a chapter of their life which they find it very hard to turn to anyone else. They will all eventually mature and be who they are going to be when they are older. I have faith in them. Cos after all, they have gone through the hardest path of their life.
1187697
Emo(tional).  Get it?
556138
Goths generally like certain kinds of music, but that doesn't mean they hate everything else. I like some kinds of R&B, hip=hop and rap. You've most likely only been exposed to the fakey stuff on the radio. That's not real rap or hip-hop. And it probably isn't the music you hate, it's the ideas; misogyny, violence, materialism, the glorification of poverty and ignorance. Take away these unflattering items and all you have left is a style of singing and musical beats that may or may not be to your liking. Hope that cleared things up! ;)
107907
If you mean Gothic Culture...\nWhy do you care? Why do you have to judge them, don't worry about them. They are better people then most of you fckin losers.
532827
Emo=emotinal, cut their wrist every freaking time they feel bad, hear Hawthorne Heights, MCR, ect, anything that is punk, heavy metal ect. wear really tight pants, black eyeliner, bangs are definitely emo, thick rimmed glases, hate their life, are bisexual, wear Vans of the wall, Converse all star, lotta stuff, but if you wanna hear it in a comedy, go see the emo song by andy and andrew :)
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I think Goths are associated with "evil" because Death is a huge fascination for the Goth, as are vampires and anything else associated with bringing Death, and since most people fear Death, they assume anything enamored with it must be evil.\n\nGoths have this whole Victorian-Nihilist thing going on, all pain and poetry, and to an angsty young person, this is very attractive.\n\nIt didn't used to be just a fashion thing. "Back in My Day" (I love saying that!), you dressed like you belonged at an 18th/19th-century funeral because that era was very romantic, and you felt like you belonged there instead of here. Think "Wuthering Heights" -- oh, the pain, Heathcliff, the sweet pain!\n\nAnne Rice had a lot to do with it, too.\n\nSo that's my take, anyway.
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I recently answered a similar question about what Goth "is". I think it addresses your question regarding subcultures. I've quoted it below.\n\n"There are a lot of different ways to answer this question because "Goth" means different things to different people.\n\nFor some, being "Goth" is simply an extension of a musical culture that had its roots in punk rock. It's a way of identifying yourself to others with similar interests. For example, when I was a teenager (80'-90's) if I saw someone wearing Doc Martins or black lipstick, the odds were good that that person liked the same music I did. At that time it was things like The Cure, Siouxsie and the Banshees, New Order, Nine Inch Nails etc...\n\nThe look of "Goth” usually consists of a lot of black. There are, however, plenty of sub-cultures within the Gothic and each has their defining characteristics. Some of the variations are:\nMusical (dress like the bands you like)\n\nVampire (classic Goth sometimes with prosthetic fangs and a belief system drawn from Vampire lore)\n\nPagan (will often dress in a Goth manner, but will often display images from the Pagan belief system or worship of the Earth Mother. The Pentagram is one of those symbols)\n\nFetish (Gothic appearance, but with an S/M twist. These people often have a focus on relationships involving power exchanges. Fetish wear often consists of clothes made of leather, latex and vinyl. There are varying symbols that can be worn to indicate one's preferences. A collar if you're a bottom or a confident swagger for a top.)\n\nRebellion (some young people are simply looking for a way to stand out, or be identified with a group outside the so-called "mainstream"\n\nThese are all HUGE generalizations and not hard and fast rules by any means. As to the point of dressing Goth, it's no different than any other fashion choice. It identifies one with a particular group the same way a string of pearls and a cardigan sweater identifies someone to a different kind of group. And sometimes, someone may just think it looks cool and there's no ideology behind it at all.\n\nI was a "Goth" for many years and now I'm not. I don't disdain those who are, but I simply didn't need to distinguish myself in that fashion anymore. Some of us grow out of it, and some of us make a style for life. Either way, it comes down to the person you are inside and not what colors you wrap yourself in." \n\nAs for your specific question, I've always been fond of the dramatic look of Goth as well as some of the belief systems that accompany the various subgroups of Goth. \n\nWhat I'd dislike about Goths, is that they often have a very exclusionary attitude. I find this ironic since many people become gothic because they have been excluded from “so called” mainstream society because of their beliefs or aesthetic preferences. I also dislike the notion that they are somehow superior. Every new generation of Goth thinks they are the first in the world to discover it.  \n\nThere's also a certain knee jerk anti-establishment set of ideals that goes with the Goth persona. Many Goths simply adopt the views of their fellow Goths with out actually investigating the information for themselves and drawing their own conclusions. Again this is ironic since, outwardly Goths often preach open mindedness, but all too often fall into the sheep like mentality that they claim to be escaping in the first place. \n\nI only know these things from my personal experiences as a member of the "Goth" community in its many forms. It is only in retrospect that I have been able to come to these conclusions. Obviously I have no objection to the Goth look or lifestyle, but you specifically asked about dislikes as well as likes.
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One thing that must be understood about human nature is that people thrive in the understood, and that which is not understood is to be feared.  That being said, the "Goths" of today (they should learn more about the culture from which they believe they are derived) are seeking to be that which is misunderstood; it's part of the mystique.  Many a teen-ager has felt that they are the only ones feeling this way, that they ar alone and misunderstood; the darkenss of tehir clotes and culture reflect that.  And the fact that their superiors (parents, bosses etc) justify this feeling.\n\nI am not putting down Goths.  I have been friends with many and this is what I derive; they are more cynical and pessemistic.  Instead of trying to change their situation or point of view, they strive for more proof that their lives are negative.  \n\nIt's just a countermovement, a 180 degree twist from the perky, chipper, and often sickening presence of the cheerleaders and other preppies.
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i guess since everyone is trying to fit in, and alot of people think they can do that by the gothic revolution. Goths are creepy, in my opinion, but i don't discriminate against them or anything. Also alot of people are stressed out, because of financial problems. Also because some people are idiots and usually do things like steal, torcher people, suicide, murder, and all that stuff. I think it's all because of pressure, just because some people who are truly unhappy try to make others unhappy, trying to make the world an unhappy mess. People like me and maybe even you can save the world by just being happy, by just making someone's day, or giving someone a hug. I tried, by typing this foryou, to persuade you to always believe in happiness, tell you that happy people DO exist, and are still here. And happiness is in everybody, no matter how depressed they are. Depression hurts the mind, body, and soul. I hope you understand my love for happiness, because none of my other answers are this long!!! Or this much thought out. But don't worry, the happy people aren't gone. They are still here, to make the world a much better place. Like me.(:
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Gothic culture actually started out as an offshoot of punk culture in the early 80's.  They have the same roots and share a non-conformist attitude and unconventional clothing.  The big difference is the way the two groups deal with the messed up world we live in.  Goths tend to get depressed about it, and often use sarcastic humor or emotional behavior to cope with it.  Punks are more likely to be angry and confrontational about problems.  From this fundamental difference comes the distinct clothing, music, and lifestyles that epitomize the two cultures.
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Eh...why a goth's opinion, especially? Could you describe the book itself?
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Not all preps hate goths. My best friend is prep and I am goth, but we get along fine.  Her friends hate me though.  They say I am 2 depressing and they hate my style of clothes.  I guess we r just 2 opposite peoples.