So, Women have pain in Childbirth cause Eve ate an Apple 4,000 years ago? Whatever happend to forgiveness?
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God may have given us pain during childbirth, but medical science gave us Demerol.  \n\nPersonally, I don't believe the Adam and Eve stuff, but I do believe very strongly in the effects of a good epidural.\n\nEdited to say, I need some demerol or at least a few asprin after reading the all caps answer.  Sheesh, do you need to shout?
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First question...I am a very feminist "Christian" and I believe that God is both, since there is both male and female...if all of us are created in God's image, then women are also...hence the both sexes present.\nSecond question...to most people that have studied the Bible, original sin IS NOT Eve's fault. It is the fault of Adam. He lied to Eve about what God had said about the Tree of Knowledge and when it came time to "confess" Adam blamed Eve for everything and also (and I'm paraphrasing here) called God an idiot for making her. Also according to Jewish Law and Myth, a man is always held accountable for a womans actions.\nThird question...there is a Bible called the Jeromes Bible, it was translated by St. Jerome and he took the original Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew text word for word in the translation...the reason I bring that translation up is because women are not as "negatively" portraited as in some other translations. Sure you still have Jezebel, Deliha, and all those other honeys...but when women are discussed, it is not as "irrational" as some other translations.\nWhat you have to remember is that we don't honestly know what is in the original text...the Bible has become corrupted by man and HIS own dogma and ideology. The most important thing about faith is to know what you believe in and to use the bible as a guide...not as faith itself. \nGod does not hate women, nor is He indifferent to them. He made as all, both sexes, equal...Eve was taken from Adams rib, not from his feet to be above him, or from his feet to be below him; but from his rib, to be equal to him. That is something we all must remember.
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There was no green peace, democrats or womens rights organizations during the supposed time of Adam and Eve. And its nothing to do with Eve personally. I guess God wasnt worried about Adam eating it because he was to stupid to figure out what a "tree" or an "apple" were. A better question would be, who let the snake in? or Why did God create the tree and apple in the first place?
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God maks no mistakes! It is man who makes mistakes!\n\n  I can;t believe that Christians are answering in such a childish manner concerning this question. First of all the apple bit is a myth incerted into our bibles by those we allow to translate and print it .for the past three hundred years Jews have been translating and printing the Christians Bible and perverting it I believe in order to make us ignorant of GODs true word\n\n The BIBLE says to STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF THE APPROVED WORD OF GOD.  To do that you must not believe that simply because someone hands you a Bible it is the "approved word " of GOD. To do this you must put some effort in it in order to prove your love for GOD. You must research history and go back and research the anciant writings of the bible . The greek Septuagint is one such anciant manuscript of Gods true word, untouched by Jewish translator. It was left in the hands of the Greeks because God knew they would not misstanslate it  and would present it as it was given to them. You can purchase an English version of the GReek Septuagitn today in order to put all these childhood , judao myths to rest.\n\n   First there was no fruit such as an apple in the bible. i have several old versions and in my 1703 verson it says that EVE WAS BEGUILED BY the SERPENT which is to mean that Eve was sexually tempted and did partake of the serpant in sex. \n\n God calls all things fruit because they are the fruit of GODS labor Adam and Eve were the fruit of GOdS labor and so was Satan.He says be fruitful and multiply meaning this toward humans and the multiplying of the people. He warned Adam and Eve that they could partake of any fruit in the garden which consisted only of Adam and Eve and the other fruit that God forbade them to partake of was the Fruit ( creation of satan whoc had more knwledge than they) of knowledge which was satan himself.\nDictionary\n par·take    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pär-tk)\nv. par·took, (-tk) par·tak·en, (-tkn) par·tak·ing, pa·takes \nv. intr.\nTo take or have a part or share; participate.  \nTo have part of the quality, nature, or character of something. \n\nv. tr.\nTo take or have a part in; share in.\n \n Eve was "Beguiled " (seduced ) by satan and that resulted in the son CAIN and later the Cannites.\n\nDictionary:Beguiled\n\nadj : filled with wonder and delight [syn: captivated, charmed, delighted, enthralled, entranced]\n\n     It was Cain who is the son of Satan and thusly the earthly seed of satan was born. \n\n  God warned them and Eve partook with satan once he beguiled and suduced her and then she shared with Adam whom when God asked why is it that they know they are naked, Adam responded " lord it is that woman you gave me." God was not madd at Adam because of the lust between Adam and Eve , He was angry because Eve disobeyed GOD and did partake of the fruit of knowledge ( the only one who had knowledge besides GOd at that time) and was impregnated with satans seed. God refers to all human creation as Fruit!\n\nGen 30:2 And Jacob's anger was kindled against Rachel: and he said, [Am] I in God's stead, who hath withheld from thee the fruit of the womb? \n\nExd 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart [from her], and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges [determine]. \n\nDeu 7:13 And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee. \n\n  In all transcripts of the Bible from 1611 back to the time of Christ there is no mention of an apple or the fruit of a tree . It read that Adam and Eve was not to partake of the fruit of knowledge whcih is the serpent satan. Jewish translation
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Sure they did.  Things were different then.  God flooded the earth once to destroy wickedness, but he will not destroy it by flood again.  He is an unchangable being, but he changes the rules for men from time to time.  We no longer live by the law of Moses, for Christ fulfilled it.  Now we live by Christs law.  Likewise, we no longer marry our brothers and sisters.  That is something that has changed.\n\nScientifically, you might also consider that genes degrade over time.  As the human population has aged, our genes have also aged.  What once may have been an acceptable health practice (having children with brothers or sisters) is now dangerous.  There is a high liklyhood of miscarriage and of retardation in children parented by siblings.  Was this the case early in human history?  Maybe not.\n\nAlso, it is no longer socially acceptable.  We live in a world filled with people.  Adam and Eve were the only ones.  Was there a difference?  You bet.
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well, the Christian church believes that women are sinful, weak creatures and owned by their husbands.  I'd say that's an issue.\n\n"In Genesis chapter 3, God punishes Eve, and all women for thousands of years, with greatly increased pain during childbirth. No such pain is inflicted on Adam. \n\nIn Ephesians 5:22-24 we find this: "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything." \n\nIn 1 Peter 3:7 we find: "Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers." "\n\nSay "the church" was vague though.  in Wicca, women are worshipped as the creators of life.
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Please. I don't remember asking psychoanalysts for their theory on something that has been around since adam and eve.\nShrinks have only been around since late the last 100 years anyway.
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The hurt and scars will always be there. Forgiveness is a cognitive choice to act differently than you feel. Over time this becomes easier to do. Look at the mennonites who had their children murdered...they forgave even though they were grieving and had deep emotions and hurt. They believe there is no other way to live. Jesus said "forgive them father for they know not what they do" Now this does not mean we put ourselves at risk for further harm...ie we don`t continue to live with a violent partner just because we forgave them...
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Birth is ALWAYS MORE PAINFUL!! \n\nImagine squeezing a watermelon out of your ass. Ya...its that painful! Women who go through natural birth are really tough. \n\nWomen use to die sometimes from giving birth when technology wasnt as good. It basically splits you open. Its why they have to cut a little into you so you wont be ripped apart by this thing coming out of you. Men will never understand what women have to go through to bear their child.
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This ones really easy: Sin.\n\nWhen Adam and Eve were in the garden, they had no sin. When Eve ate the apple, and then Adam, God cast them out. They had eaten of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They knew sin. Through the blood line, their children knew sin and so on. ALL sin. Before Cain and Able, there was no murder. Homosexuality is a sin, just like anyother, and thats how it came to be.\n\nOr, look at it another way. Men left to their own devices, will find a way to find pleasure, so it came naturally once they knew sin. \n\nHomosexuality was first recorded (I believe) when Noahs sons took advantage of him, both homosexuality AND incest. SO to say its been around since almost the beginning of time is accurate.\n\nNow they say its genetic, but thats not the case for everyone. Is that just science way of trying to cut down on the persecution of homosexuals? Maybe, because many will admit they choose it.  If it is genetic, is that a mutation of genes? Possibly. Or could it be due to the first sin, the original sin, that some really are born to be that way?
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Adam and Eve in the garden..Eve picked the apple and sin became known..That is how work was invented..
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The story of Adam and Eve was just that ... A story. It was told to make a point in spiritual truth, not as a real history. The point being that when we follow ego we seem separated from Deity. The writer of Genesis simply used Satan as a metaphor for that portion of the human mind that forms the illusion of separation, which thing we call ego. Its just a difference in terminology based on language and culture. The principle truth remains the same. God loving people in no way negates cause and effect. We do things. That's the cause. If we make bad choices we suffer the consequences. That's the effect. Cause and effect is a simple Universal law. Its not a punishment, its just the way things work. If we make good choices we can put that law of cause and effect to work for us rather than against us and instead of suffering the consequences of our actions we can reap the rewards. Which things are a matter of perception. But understanding this helps keep ego (Satan, our own "lower" nature) in check and make appropriate choices in life. ;-) ~ Peace & Blessings ~
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Do you recall the Marijuana plants in the garden of Eden? I didnt think so...and if you think we should eat every plant that exist in the world today how about a hemlock brownie?...a little Hemlock and your going to be dead or in the hospital. the verse you speak of was in Genisis at the start of creation when Adam and Eve were In Eden and were told the could eat of any tree in the garden except the tree in the midst of the garden....they were kicked out of Eden...and all plants are not healthy here.
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Lucifer did not cause Eve to eat the fruit.  She chose to eat the fruit herself.  Satan lied to Eve and misquoted what God had told Adam and Eve about eating the fruit.  She just blamed it on the serpent (Satan).  Then Adam blamed Eve (the woman Thou gavest me Lord).  Not one took credit for the action that they had just done.  Many scholars believe that Adam loved Eve so much he ate of the fruit so that he wouldn't be without her.  \n\nIf you read the passages in context, you will see that Satan misquoted what God had told Adam and Eve about the fruit.
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Most women have both. Eve's punishment was pain in childbirth.
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The fable of Adam and Eve and the apple comes from Pandora's Box.  The virgin birth comes from Zeus' amorous adventures such as impregnating someone when he turned himself into a shower of gold.  Those are just a couple of them.  Read some of the myths and you will start to recognize them.
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She was in the Garden by the tree when the serpent came and tempted her to eat from it. It was Eve's fault that she ate from the tree, even though it was the devil who tempted her. God had plainly told them to eat from any tree from the garden, except for the tree of knowledge.