why does the media call the protest tommorow an immigration problem when its an illegal immigration problem?
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Because the media tend to be afraid to take a side on the real issues.  If they show a bias they might lose viewers and this would hurt their business.  Things have become too politically correct, people living and working here illegally are breaking the law.  If I rob a store, I'll be put into jail, won't I?  Well whatever I don't feel like gettin' into this right now I'm off to bed!!  But... \n\n...It's all about the Benjamin's, baby.\n\n\n\n** Person before me:  while I agree that the media is completely biased and the Republicans are far from perfect, was it not the (alcoholic and self-proclaimed-stupid) Senator Ted Kennedy from our lovely state of MA (he's a DEMOCRAT) who is quoted nightly on the news/radio in the Boston area ("VIVA LA VICTORIA" come ON) and backs up all attempts for complete amnesty?  He isn't alone.  The Democrats have their own pro-Amnesty agenda hidden behind the fascade of "human rights."  Don't be fooled my friend, both sides of the political spectrum are messed up!\n\nSir, Germany isn't now nor ever was COMMUNIST.  Hitler was a fascist dictator.  If I'm not mistaken, most of the world was fighting the spread of communism - Germany included - on the eastern front.  I just needed to put that out there b/c that is a really terrible mistake to make.  If you mean an authoritarian, or totalitarian dictatorship then fine - but communism is an economic system not a political system so that statement makes even LESS sense...
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You are right ... people tend to confuse race with law for some weird reason ... the illegal immigration issue is not about race or nationality ... it's about protecting our borders!  People who come here illegally do so knowing they are breaking our laws ... why is it racist to be against that??  And it is also very true that the biggest loudmouths screaming racism are the illegal Latinos ... probably because they have no other argument ... won't wash with me either ...
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its a condradictin issue...like every single aspect of it...\npolitics is jus 1 big cycle dats nvr ending...ppl pretend 2 b good...get gov't help...then rag on every else...\neven if u r in a different country its da same thing...da president from mexico acts as if this immigration thing is a scam...wen he kicks it w/ bush 24/7...& u kno dats politics.\nyea its morally rite 2 help da fellow US citizens...but think bout...who does all da work dat da whites & blacks (not being racial but dats da term used very often) dont want 2 do? da immigrants! no 1 sees dat...u think those farms plow or grow themselves...no! they give us food...u kno wat they give us life. da issue here is all politicians bieng kind of ignorant...so try & get ppl 2 bak them up...u kno u baks them up? racist individuals who wen they hear da word "immigrants" they automatically point & me...or any other hispanic/mexican around...those ppl judge w/o knowin & follow watever da leaders of da country say. i get tired of gettin in verbal arguements @ skool or jus about anywhere cuz of this...all i hear is "u r born in america...u r hispanic/mexican...y do u support immigrants"? u kno wat i answer 2 all those things? dat life isnt based on where u were born or who u think has da rite judgment...its about who u r as a person. welfare is relly only given 2 those who lie about their fianacial situation...get da welfare so they wont waste a cent! last but certainly not least...EVERY1 IN THIS COUNTRY IS AN IMMIGRANT! hello?!? america was discovered a LONG time ago...so my point is: this is native land! not 1 of us has da rite 2 "TRY" & block out da immigrants...FYI: an immigrant can b of ANY ethnicity...how come they only point out da hispanics? wat bout da asains & all those europeans & God knows who else?\n\nITS COOL U BROT THIS TOPIC UP! its an issue dat cannot b understood & solved w/ a simple bill...i'm only 15...born in US...yet, im called an immigrant. i dont get it?!?
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I'm not positive, but I doubt illegal immigration is happening anywhere near as much anywhere else as it is in the US. So, it's probably not a huge problem in other countries, but I'm sure they probably have rules and regulations on the issue as well.
1136587
You know it's quite interesting that the issue of immigration has gotten the American people all fired up like it's life or death for them, whereas when their own loved ones are sent to a war over questionable arguments, their voice is hardly heard. Yes it's wrong for people to come here illegally, and if they're here for drugs or whatever, then they should be punished. But for us to force out families that have been here for many years and are just trying to live a better life than the one they had is not just unreasonable, but inhumane. It's our duty to control our borders and prevent them from coming; those already here who can prove their worth to our country shouldn't suffer because we failed our own people during the past 20 years. Use your minds and stop spewing hate.
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It is not up to a political party to do something about the Illegal Alien problem.  It is up to us as a people to tell our Representatives what we want to have done about the problem.  We should learn from 9/11 that this is a serious problem that affects us all.  However many including the 9/11 terrorist's entered the country legally and then did not leave when it was time for them to.  Our INS Department does not have the staff to honestly see the job through in most cases.  We have people who have come to our country on a student visa and remain here for many years after it has been expired, and many of these people go to the INS daily trying to get some sort of status to remain here.\n\nYes we have each day people who sneak into the country, but one must realize that many Illegal Aliens came here legally and just never left.  Sometimes it is just a clerical error and others have to do with quota's.  There is a lot more problems with the illegal immigrants than most people know and understand.  The problem needs to be explored and new legislation developed to meet the needs of our country as well as be fair to those who came here legally.
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Reactionary laws?  That's friggen hysterical.  It's already against the law to enter this country without going through the proper channels, hence the term (as un-PC as it is) ILLEGAL ALIEN.  \n\nNow, as far as counter protests and marches, we have several things going against us.  \n1. We don't have a close knit network to get the word out.  There's a website here and there but there's no coordination between sites.  \n2.  Concerns about being viewed as racist.  So what if the issue isn't about race?  So what if it's about people, regardless of color, who are INVADING our country?  The media and the Hispanic/Latino leadership in this country will try to smear ANYONE who organizes a widescale protest.  \n3.  Fear of being retaliated against.  \n4.  Lastly, I believe a lot of Americans feel overwhelmed by the enormity of the problem and frustrated that the American government isn't enforcing its own laws.\n\nI say we treat illegal aliens the way they treat them in their own countries.  For example, here are a few of Mexico's laws.\n\n"Only Mexicans by birth or naturalization and Mexican companies have the right to acquire ownership of lands, waters, and their appurtenances, or to obtain concessions for the exploitation of mines or of waters. The State may grant the same right to foreigners, provided they agree before the Ministry of Foreign Relations to consider themselves as nationals in respect to such property, and bind themselves not to invoke the protection of their governments in matters relating thereunto; under penalty, in case of noncompliance with this agreement, of forfeiture of the property acquired to the Nation. Under no circumstances may foreigners acquire direct ownership of lands or waters within a zone of one hundred kilometers along the frontiers and of fifty kilometers along the shores of the country." \n\nArticle 32: "Mexicans shall have priority over foreigners under equality of circumstances for all classes of concessions and for all employment, positions, or commissions of the Government in which the status of citizenship is not indispensable. In time of peace no foreigner can serve in the Army nor in the police or public security forces."\n\n Foreign-born, naturalized Mexican citizens may not become federal lawmakers (Article 55), cabinet secretaries (Article 91) or supreme court justices (Article 95). \n\nAccording to Article 33, "the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action."\n\nNon-citizens are forbidden to participate in demonstrations or express opinions in public about domestic politics.  Article 9 states, "only citizens of the Republic may do so to take part in the political affairs of the country."  Article 33 is unambiguous: "Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country."\n\n*In response to the answer below:\n\nIt's not a complex issue.\nThey ARE criminals.  They broke the laws of this nation by entering without going through the proper channels.  Many of them use stolen or forged identies and social security cards, which means they are breaking MORE laws.\nBusinesses do not need their labor.  Businesses need to stop undermining the foundation of this county and discontinue their law breaking activities.  Who the hell do you think did the work before the last 12 million illegals came here?  Do you think Americans would sit and starve if illegals didn't pick fruits and vegetables?  I guarantee you they would NOT starve.\nJefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt are spinning in their graves over the invasion of this country and the government's lack of action to stop the influx.\n\nTheodore Roosevelt Advocates Americanism, 1915\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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The current protests are ABSOLUTELY anarchy. It is not very smart to be doing something illegal, then making it known that you are doing it by shouting it out in a protest. \n\nPeople who are here illegally are breaking the law. There are steps that can be taken to be here legally and they should take them. It may be a difficult process, but as we all know Freedom isn't free, and if you want it bad enough, you should be willing to do what it takes to get it through legal means.\n\nWhat would happen if child molesters decided to protest the laws against child molesting. We would all say, that's crazy! How can they be "in the wrong" and demand the laws be changed so that they can do what they want. I don't think it is right. The best way to resolve the problem is to make it prohibitive for illegal people to be here, and beneficial for legal immigrants to be here. Our laws are there for a reason, America is not a free for all...and if you want to be a part of its citizenry, then you must follow the laws like the rest of the citizens. \n\nWhat gets me is all these people using emotionalism and saying that "human rights" are being violated. How is it a violation of human rights to tell people who entered this country illegally, got jobs, and basically are squatters and cheaters that at long last, YOU MUST DO THE RIGHT THING! \n\nI think they do not understand what the definition of "Human Rights" is. They are not being treated inhumanely, they are actually fortunate. Because they are being treated as any other American Citizen who breaks the law. ACTUALLY they are being treated BETTER than any other American Citizen who breaks the law. How many U.S. citizens do you know, can break the law, admit to it, protest about it....and not be punished unless or until congress decides to re-write the law in an effort to be as fair to THEM as possible. Come on! Just because they took low paying jobs and work hard at them, does not mean that they are free to break the law. And if we allow them to do it, then the country they are so eager to live in will cease to be the country it is supposed to be. \n\nIf what illegal immigrants want to do is to work, raise families, and live in a free society. Then, follow the LEGAL process to do so, learn the language, and the culture, pay your taxes, and become an American the right way!\n\nDon't break the law and then scream victim! You are not victims. The tax payers who support social programs are victims; the people who migrate to this country and become legal citizens are victims. Illegal immigrants are people who made a "CHOICE" to do the WRONG thing, and think they should be excused or rewarded for that choice. I say WAKE UP; take responsibility for your actions, and GET LEGAL or leave.
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I'm guessing it may be a combination of ignorance, arrogance and a sense of entitlement.  When pressed, many of the illegals and their supporters openly admit that they consider the Southwestern US to be "occupied" territory, taken from Mexico.  This is simply a symptom of that view.
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That's a great question.....I live in a sanctuary city, on the border.....We have many day workers who are illegal and come for the day to work and then go back home and they bother no one.....They are never really asked for status.....Some of course live here.....We rarely have crimes committed by illegals, all crime is committed by citizens.....Illegals, for the most part come only to work and do there best to stay out of trouble or the limelight, they would not dare protest, because no one here really minds them living here......And there is nothing to protest....This has been my experience, and I can only speak from my experience.....
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Mob mentality has a lot to do with their behavior.  People will do things in a group they would never do if alone.\n\nThe immigration issue is a difficult one.  What needs to happen is that workable, enforceable laws must be established and supported that allow LEGAL access for those wanting to work in our country, but they must work within the system.  If they don't, and we allow that, it's an insult to every immigrant who waited and worked to get here legally.\n\nWe simply cannot allow our laws to not only be disrespected and disregarded, but to have to financially support those who are breaking our laws as well.  That recipe will lead to disaster for our state and our country.  So change the laws.  Establish a win win situation for both sides.\n\nOur neighbors across the street worked three jobs each to get enough money to legally bring their relatives to the United States.  Is it fair that their hard work and sacrifice be dismissed, and the same rights granted to those who flaunt the laws of our land and "sneak" in?\n\nIt's a difficult situation, but we cannot abandon the rule of law.
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Everyone calls everyone 'racist' which is a 'racist' remark itself. That word should be abolished from this category, it is moot point. Being of any particular color or ethnicity is NOT the issue when speaking of the illegal immigrants who come into the USA undocumented. The issue is the fact they are ILLEGAL which is against our laws. It doesn't matter where they came from they are still illegal, even if they came from Europe or Africa. The fact that SO MANY of them come from across our border with Mexico is the reason we are concerned with those illegally entering THERE. There are more than Mexicans entering at that border, we know that, and we know they joined with the other Latina's in the protest on May 1st flying the MEXICAN flag. Those from other countries of Spanish descent didn't fly their flags but supported the Mexican flag. The speeches spoke of Mexico and Mexican people, so naturally all those coming across the Mexican border are going to be referred to as Mexicans, maybe it's wrong but they brought it on themselves by flying that flag. They are all guilty of protesting and demanding rights they don't have. Illegal immigrants don't HAVE rights in the USA including those from Germany and Africa, etc. It is not racist to want laws enforced. By accusing people of being racist it only fuels their anger and actually pushes them to hate the accusers even more. It "creates" a racist mentality where none had been.
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Yeah the illegals are part of the problem because they are stealing all of our resources. They are breaking the law to be here and this country rewards them. The rights that are suppose to be enjoyed by citizens and those here legally and being given freely to the illegals which is completely wrong. They should not be entitled to welfare, medical assistance, access to public schools, etc. Law enforcement is very hesitant to do anything about it as well as INS and other government agencies. The laws on the books need to be enforced and these people need to be deported. Let's put armed US troops on the borders and keep them out. Additional, this would also help to deter the drug problem coming across the border as well. If anyone is here illegally and don't like what I am saying, well tough luck. This is my country. I am a citizen. You are breaking the law to be here and have no say in anything. If you want to stay here then enter the country legally.
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The purpose of the protests is to show the power of the "immigrant community" by boycotting businesses and turning up for rallies in large numbers.\n\nThe organizers have done an excellent job of convincing a huge number of people that this is an anti-immigrant (legal and illegal) issue, not an illegal immigration issue.\n\nUnfortunately for the organizers, here in Southern California the only visible effect on the community at large was that rush hour was a breeze.  The freeways were as empty as if it had been a weekend.\n\nThe economic impact was mainly in the Hispanic communities as all of their businesses were shut down for the day.  Outside of that, they world moved on just fine.
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It was not just the illegals that were marching. I am a US born citizen and I marched and wore my white shirt. And although you who don't understand the cause  and don't think a point was made. I believe the govt. might think differently. Because many of us that marched are US citizens and we do Vote. And that is something that the govt. cares about. And we did protest in English and Spanish as many of us legal or illegal are bilingual. And I have read answers in the forum  were many people say to wait in line and do the paperwork to come to this country legally. Well obviously you don't know anything about coming to this country legally from another country.You cant just fill out paperwork. A few years back anyone could get a visitors Visa to come here but Mexico,central and south American countries were cut off. However, it seems like all other countries still have that type of Visa available. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I believe that is why they didn't join the protests. Some people are here illegally because their visitors Visa expired and they just stayed here. Others crossed the border with no questions asked by the border officials because they look "white". And countless amounts have crossed running and hiding and many have died just to come here. You have no idea what it's like. I can only begin to imageing the pain and desperation of leaving your family behind to find a better life. You don't understand that they look up to this country and then when they get here they are mistreated. The point is there never should have been a law that made it illegal for anyone to come to this country. Maybe just different policies or different requirements.
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Great minds think alike ;)\n\n100% Agreed!\n\nYes, special interests that are behind these protests, etc. are trying to obfuscate the real issue, by making it about pro- or anti-IMMIGRATION, when in reality what we're talking about is ILLEGAL immigration.  They are not arguing based on the facts of the issue (because they can't win this way) but by name-calling and creating divisions.
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I've been dealing with the issues for over 10 years. Why is it now coming up with the rest of you because it is at a critical mass and it has become a major problem. Economically, Socially and Culturally. It is effecting the quality of life in this country and threatening our future as a sovereign nation. Simple as that.