Why don't competent Christians take office and do something about America's serious moral problems?
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George Washington said "“The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion”\n\nI've never heard the quote you talk about. That being said, we have a "Christian" in office now, and look at the condition our country is in. I use the quote around "Christian" because I believe he is a false Christian. The last true Christian we had in office was Jimmy Carter, who is a great person, but a poor leader. True Christians do not have the pride, greed, or lust to be President.\n\nThe seperation of Church and State is not in the Constitution. Thomas Jefferson, who wrote the Declaration of Independence, wrote of a "wall of seperation between church and state" in a letter to the Danbury Baptists. The Constitution states government shall "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
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i am more afraid of the fact we have run-away legislation that is removing our civil liberties.\nWe have people of many faiths in government and the one thing i know about religion is none of them get along.\nI have noticed a trend towards more co-operation though among the different faiths in electing politicians.\nRELIGION is under a microscope these days and slowly more facts are pointing to it being silly superstition rooted in fear and the un-known.\nTHE bible or books of all religions include people that have lived around the times people write stories including there profits and unless your profit is the ruler or king of the land no information exists to support there existence\nPilgrimages did not begin till well after the stories were told and only slowly grew over hundreds of years .PEOPLE did not begin going to the site of jesus tomb or crucifixion for over 200 years.\nTHEY (religious leaders) are beginningto scramble to hold on to beleivers.churches are falling into ruin in america and new mega churches are springing up .THESE churches have seating for 10 and 20 thousand members and if you doubt there political involvement you have not noticed whats happenong in america.THEY have many political agends and community involvement at  the highest levels .THESE people once motivated buy there leader or politician become campaign advocates making calls walking precincts and turning out votes for the people choosen for them by there leaders.\nTHESE choosen politicians are as blind as a bat to the needs of americans and serve only the mega churches values this does not represent america but only about 1% of the community that is very active.\nIF democrats ever want to be elected they need a strong orginized base like these mega churches provide for consevatives.\nREMEMBER if i can get you in a room and tell you jesus said so that one hour sermon just got turned into a political ralley if given in a mega church.\nreligion is on its way out in america this is its last flash and appears  bright but the light will fade out quickly.\nWE can not ignor the impact of this and will need to remove and repair some laws written during this time over the last twenty years.\nRELIGION is becoming a thing of the past , only religious leaders of the catholic church , there politicians, support the mexicans here who just so happen to be predominently catholic.\nBUT my friend bush is attacking the press for giving him such a hard time for 8 months when he took (TOOK) office and had no support for anything and went on vacation till 9-11.NOW bush beleives he was meant to be the leader of the new crusades against fundimental religious leaders who have declared war on all christians world wide.THEY SEE our bible as wrong and the peoplle following the devil so bushes responce is bring it on and he will track them down to the ends of the earth never giving-up.\nHAD we not tried to change there way of live and not brought western ideas and crimes with us they would have ignored us but 40 years of interferance in there way of life lead to this point.I fear idiots like bush and a religious people but now we see them all for what they are and soon america will evolve beyond mystical and fear driven populations concerned more about personel gain and profit then religion.
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i am american, Im NOT Christian.\n There are about 2 churches in 1 neighhood ratio, that is how people are brought up, to believe the same thing and be orderally. I mean what would happen if people actually thought for themselves? It all ends up being affliated with the goverment, they want masses of people thinking the same things so they dont have to deal with other crap, people wouldn't all vote for some pertically person because he said something about there god...I mean what happened to seperation between state and church?!
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I don't think of the American conscience in these terms, so I cannot answer this question.\n\nI doubt the liberals will ever provide a consensus for morality.
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Hi Reuben,\nWe as Americans have to understand that Christian morals form the foundation of American Judisprudance and American society. The founding men and women of this country also happened to be predominantly Christian. I am not religious myself, but I do believe that it will never be possible to eliminate the theme of religion from Government. \n\nI remember in public high school being alienated for objecting to saying the pledge of allegiance. I was branded anti-American. I objected because I did not believe in the phrase "under God." Nevertheless I was forced to recite the pledge. \n\nMy point is that Christians founded this country and Christians run it for the most part. Life just isnt fair sometimes. It's sad to believe that in the USA we must make compromises with our moral values to acomodate the majority. But when we come to the bottom line, it's not about who's interpertation of the constitution we will accept. It's all about who's making the laws. Who we vote for.
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I don't understand how this country (US) could be founded on religion when the 1st amendment guarantees the separation of church and state. Politicians who seek votes by professing their religion don't look like idiots to me. To me they come across as being anti-American.
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Because our country is currently run by Republicans, who historically could care less about the plight of the poor and helpless.  The mindset is: "If I can be wealthy without government handouts, then everyone else can too."  They can't see that the American dream does NOT exist for a lot of people, especially minorities, and that some people have many more obstacles than White Anglo-Saxon Protestants.  It's really sad.  Hopefully we can get some Democrats in office who can help provide good legislation to help the poor and suffering.
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Many people don't see religion as casting all humans as inherently bad.  For some of us, for example, our belief in a higher power incentivizes us to do good even when society would permit us not to.  In my own personal conduct, integrity is the hallmark of everything that I do and say.  I trace that integrity to a belief that at some point in the future I will have to answer for (i.e. justify) my every choice, word, and action.  In other words, even when it appears that no one is observing my conduct, I behave because I believe that Someone is.  It has become fashionable in political circles to mention one's religion, and particularly one's fundamentalism, much in the same vein as one lists other credentials (i.e. education, business experience, and political involvement to date).  I am tremendously skeptical that many if any of our political leaders truly believe the faith they profess.  I am convinced that if more of them anticipated justifying their conduct to a higher power, the world would automatically be better and, for example, the war in Iraq might never have begun under such false pretenses.
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The US is far from a secular humanist country.  If it were, Bush would not have gotten elected.
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Untill the people of America take back there Government from the International Corporations who pay for elections, draft the bills that are signed and not even read, you cannot claim to being a Free and Democratic Society. .. You are not, you are a Republic lead by the Super Rich. First get real elections, not politically carved up "pseudo elections" controlled and manipulated by those in power. One man one vote would make a hugh difference in this Country. A receipt for your vote and non-computer manipulated elections is another two.\nUntil then you are just a slave on the new world plantation, where the new Niggers are the Chinese and other third world Communist slaves. You cannot call yourself Christian and support this kind of world. Nixon sold us out, Regan pounded in the nails by retro actively getting rid of the tax deductions on new factory equipment investment. He wanted to make sure America could not compete. Until the Christians grow up and start seeing who's hitting them on the heads, things will keep getting worse. But they still like Pat Roberts, Benny Hin and that pig Jerry Faldwell. So don't look for things to get better at all. It's too late. Christians have once again suceeded in making Hell on Earth a reality. There is no cure for Stupid. They don't even know they are dammed, caught in an endless pile of lies that they get spoon fed by their Church heads and Politicians.
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He's a leader of a church -- we'd all be a lot better off if church leaders would stay OUT of politics completely rather than get more involved.  Their involvement in politics over the centuries has caused more trouble than any other single influence.
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You asked why "NOBODY" cares to stop the corruption. The fact is that there were thousands of more people voting on the last American Idol competition than voted in the presidential election. Americans 'speak', every day. By not participating in the governmental process they are 'saying' that it is not their responsibility and they do not care.\nTake a look at some of the questions people ask on YA, and some of the answers people are giving. If this forum is representative of American society, it is crystal clear why there is a failure in the American civic structure. A huge percentile of the questions are unintelligible, immoral, grammatically incorrect, etc.\nThe questions are coming from people who are "educated?" in the American schools to which you refer. \nYes, there is corruption, but it might possibly begin in the homes where there are not 2 parents, the television serves as the parent, children are not taught manners and moral behaviour, and immoral behaviour is rewarded. In more eloquent words than my own,Thomas Paine said, "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one" , and Ronald Reagan said,  "The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away." \nAccurate commentaries, I think.
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People like Sports chic are so lost and need to question and not blindly support an unworthy leader.\n\nBush is too stupid tom be the Anti-Christ. He is a very bad example of what it is to be true Christian. He brings war to the Middle East and death to the innocent in the name of freedom. Now that's evil...so much they will know we are Christians by our love.\n\nHe's the worst US President ever to be in office. I voted for Kerry the lesser of two evils.
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They should, if they cant , it would be unconstitutional. I belive that rejecting one person from becoming president all because of their spirituality is wrong and facist.\nRELIGION SHOULD NOT MIX WITH POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!
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Just another scapegoat to blame society's problems on, and a way to divide people. There is a massive misconception in the US today that this is a "Christian" nation and that certain people/behaviors should be condemned. Funny thing, historically speaking every time a single religion comes to power that nations folds in on itself.
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Because they are not able to think issues through for themselves. They are either too lazy or too stupid, I'm not sure which. They simply believe what they are told and repeat what they are told incessantly in the hopes of recruiting more parrots for their cause. Oh yeah, and they drink WAY too much of the Jesus Juice the right-wing "Christians" serve.
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Yes, as an american, I firmly believe that most americans are idiots. They pick a president based on things like the bible and gay marriage. First off, how many people have ever been to a gay wedding? (not many) Secondly, there's a separation of church and state in the constitution.....so why does the bible matter in government? They should be considering things like, who can "balance a budget", can reform education, positively influence the economy, etc. But hey.....most just care who does what with who in the dark. I think that's pretty stupid.