I am doing a debate project on abortion. Can anyone give me a reason that abortion is not murder?
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Only in cases of danger or possible death to the mother, epecially if she has a family and other children to care for. Anytime it is used as a form of birth control than it is definatly murder.\nGood Question I'm sure you're going to get some really wacked questions. There are alot of people who just don't get it. The way you pose the question will hopefully make them think about it.\n\nI've said in the past that I'm pro-choice. You have so many choices out there that if you don't want to have a baby use them, condoms, IUD's, the patch, the shot, the pill, foams, creams, the morning after pill. My heck grow up and be responsible for your actions. But... that's just my opinion.
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For the record I am against all abortion.  But from what I've read thus far on the subject, it seems that the opponents of the abortion are looking at the baby and arguing it is cruel to them.  Supporters are arguing it is safest for the woman (since they may not consider the fetus a baby until it is born).\n\nThey do crush the skull and/or cut it open and remove the brain into a vacuum.  With the subsequent smaller head it is much easier to remove the baby/fetus (whichever you'd like) from the uterus.  The only other way that I know of is to cut up the baby part by part inside and remove each part one by one.  The baby is killed first so its pain is limited in that second one.\n\nIt does seem to me that since both styles hurt the child about the same, that in essence the opponents aren't trying to end one as being too cruel to the kid; rather they are trying to limit abortions and make each abortion type illegal one by one rather than the stop all abortions at once (which has repeatedly failed at the Supreme Court level).  I guess its up to each of us to decide what we believe is right and then to fight for that.  I've chosen no abortions, but I fully understand when others want to make exceptions or make it fully legal; we each go for what we think is right.
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The basic thing about abortion is that it kills a living creature.  There can be no argument about that fact.
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I would never, ever have an abortion, but I don't have the right to make that decision for other women.  \n\nIf you believe abortion is murder, it's your right not to have one.  It is not, however, your right to force any women or girl to play host to a fetus for nine months.\n\nDo you really think a child is better off being born only to be tied up in a plastic bag and thrown in a dumpster?
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Abortion is the killing of an unborn child! It's not a lifeless blob. That makes little to no sense at all. If you put a woman and a man together, they're not going to create a blob. They're gonna create a CHILD, which is what a fetus is. If one says ' I cant care for the child.....I have work school etc', adoption is a good answer. For the kids concieved in rape, it's not the childs fault who the father is. I feel for the mother and the baby.... But truly, it's a horrible horrible crime and should be stopped.
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It blows my mind how people can be anti-capital punishment and pro-abortion.\n\nEither respect all life, or respect all innocent life, but not the liberal "don't kill convicted murders, but kill all the babies you want".\n\nBTW - to the person below... the Bible does NOT say "Thou Shall Not Kill"... it says "Thou Shall Not Committ Murder."  There is a difference.
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The answer here is very easy. When you talk about the legalisation of abortion in a country, you are not talking about whether or not abortion (or life) is a good thing or a bad thing. That is a question of ethics and/or religious belief. It is not a question of law.\n\nWhether or not to have an abortion is a choice. People who believe that abortion should be legal believe that women should have that choice. People who believe it should be a crime thus want to take away that element of choice. By defiition then, they are anti-choice.\n\nI have heard a lot of 'pro-life' people call the opposition 'anti-life'. They are specifically trying to bring the legal question back into the religious agenda, and they are overgeneralising.\n\nIt is possible to be pro-life, ethically, and pro-choice, legally.
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They are legal. The debate about that is over. Roe v. Wade is still the rule of law.\n\nDo I think it is murder? That is a whole other issue. I would never be able to contemplate having an abortion without feeling as though I was killing my child. I know that I would never "get over" having made that choice. I know I would need forgiveness, the question would be==> who would forgive me?  I know there are circumstances where it might be necessary, but pray I am never subject to those circumstances.\n\nIt is a tough, impossible issue. In the end, it probably should be legal, but there should be stricter hoops before it is permitted.
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Pro-choice. If I was raped I might not want to have the baby. I probably would-because the baby didn't do anything, and I'd probably end up giving it up for adoption, but I still want to be able to choose. And why should anyone have the right to make that choice for other women? I'm also pro-choice because with abortion legal at least its quick, safe and doesn't kil the mother or simply deform the fetus. before legal abortions there were still abortions, they just were unsafe and killed many desperate young women, and those who didnt die faced criminal charges.
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It is a good question that I too have. Some of the answers have clarified the matter somewhat.\n\nI am also pro choice. I believe in choice of action and deed, choice of religion and choice to decide how your body is used.  As a biologist I have no issues with abortions for medical, genetic or psychological reasons. I think that if by the first trimester you have not figured out what you want, then it is too late. Except for medical reasons, this is a touchy area. I disagree with the statement that your destiny is prechoosen. That an aborted baby could have cured HIV. That same baby could have just as easily turned into an oppressive dictator. It is a moot argument as it has no basis in fact. I may cure AIDS next month, but it has little to do with my parents choices years ago.\nI used to have strong feelings that I would not only support a womens right to choose, that I would sleep soundly after the procedure was done on someone I cared for. Unless for genetic or medical reasons, I now feel it is not an appropriate form of birth control except in cases of rape, or medical reasons.\n\nAs for capital punishment. I fear our justice system is not sound. While I think that murder should be dealt with swiftly and with equal justice, I feel that too many innocent people are railroaded by the system. Poor people, minorities, lesser educated are often singled out and targeted and end up convicted. Mistaken identy for a crime is scary as I can attest. If it had been a more serious offense, the unreliability someone typing data into a computer could have ruined my life. That said, for those where guilt can be proven 100% (i.e. you rob a bank in LA on live tv and shoot someone- kinda hard to not be guilty of that) then you should be executed without years on death row.\n\nSo in the end, I guess I belive in moderated killing of fetus' and moderated killing of adults.
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Abortion is murder. \nIf you would only observe a few you would be against it after you watched a few little arm and legs writhe and wiggle in pain as they are butchered. They can't scream you know, all they can do is to twitch and shake as they are ripped apart. If they could cry you could hear it.
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No, I don't believe in abortion.  First of all, it's murder.  A baby is alive the moment it is conceived.  The baby can FEEL the tools that are killing it!  Secondly, the baby could someday help the world, and by killing it off you are killing any wonderful things that child could have brought the world!  Thirdly, if a women was raped, and definitely DOES NOT want the baby, give the kid up for adoption!  Or if she doesn't want the kid period, give the kid up for adoption!  How would you like it if you were aborted!  If you were killed, before you even had a chance!  I feel sorry for those Christians who think it is okay to kill a little baby!  I'd GLADLY adopt the baby from you!\n     Thanks for listening, y'all!  I'm PRO-LIFE!
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No, it's like this: You let it be born, and if it turns out horribly bad you kill it.  Keep the good ones.  Kill off the bad ones.  There is no fallacy or conflict in this thinking.  Kiling a fetus is a different line of reasoning than killing a mass murderer.  You cannot equate the two.  thus, anti-abortion and pro-death penalty are not in conflict.  Two different things entirely.\n\nReligion is not above killing.  More people have been killed in religious conflicts than from any other cause.
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Well Dr. Lifemaker, may I ask why you are so bitter?  Do you agree that murder is wrong?  Is your argument simply that you do not believe a fetus is life?\nI just wondered because you seemed really angry in your answer, but did not explain your views.\n\nIn my view, I agree that abortion is murder.  I had a choice once, when I was a teenager.  Thank God and all that is decent in the world, I decided on adoption, not murder.\n\nI can honestly say that I have never murdered anyone.
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yes. why should murder be legal? it is murder I don't care what anyone says that baby is alive when you kill it. If you don't want a baby then don't fvcking get pregnant
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I am Christian and i agree 100%.I will pray about it also because abortion is the same as murder but for some reason people think if you kill a baby it is okay but if you kill an adult it is bad   God bless you!\nWell Killing a baby is the same a killing an adult.Hello!? They are both humans and God made them both so stop killing people!!
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I believe it is 100% WRONG!! The definition of abortion is:\n\n'An abortion is the removal or expulsion from the uterus of an embryo or fetus, resulting in or caused by its death."\n\nThe pro-choicers would have you believe that it is not a living thing. Well, if it isn't a living thing, then how can it result in DEATH? And if it truly isn't human, then how do women give birth to human babies? And, did you know, that if for some reason an abortion fails, the doctor then has a moral obligation under the hypocritic oath to do everything in his power to save the BABY! “If a baby is born alive following a failed abortion and then dies (because of lack of care), you could potentially be charged with murder,” said Shantala Vadeyar, a consultant obstetrician at South Manchester University Hospitals NHS Trust. Wow, how did it go from a fetus that we can just kill, to a baby we must try save if the abortion fails? \n\nEven international law is on the babies side: The 1978 American Convention on Human Rights states, in Article 4.1, "Every person has the right to have his life respected. This right shall be protected by law and, in general, from the moment of conception."