Do you believe the 9/11 commission report describes accurately what really happened?
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Here ya go, something else to ponder on....worth watching, you will be amazed\nhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose
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yes. he lied about seeing the 1st plane hit on cnn but the footage didnt air for another 14 hours. the fbi, cia, nas & dod all had info in the hijackers. their locations, pasts, their financing, their intentions & the training they were getting. its all been documented.  http://scotthortonshow.com/
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NO!\nAnd the only people who claim the U.S. government was involved in 9/11 are MUSLIMS who are trying to fix their public relations problem!\nNotice all the websites with false claims to the origins of 9/11 come from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, and other Muslim countries.  These people are simply trying to deflect their guilt by shifting the blame to the Americans, the Israelis, and anyone else whom they hate.
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Yes i do believe that the Bush administration was behind 9/11 !! Too much evidence pinpoints at Bush!\n\nEvidence refers that the WTC buildings 1,2 and 7 didn't collapse simply because of fire as told by the Bush admin. but because of pre-planted explosives!! \n\nNever before in history has a steel high rise building collapsed simply because of fire. On 9/11, by coincidence, three such buildings collapsed in ten to fifteen seconds, almost freefall speed. \n\nIn other words, if you dropped a brick from the top of the World Trade Center it would have taken about that time to hit the ground.\n\nFor further verification visit this website:\nhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6545313046180631815&q=contrary+9%2F11&pl=true\n\nI know that after you watch the video included on this website you will all believe that Bush was the one behind all this!
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Yes  I Know The Facts\nLarry Silverstein Purchased The WTC Within A Year Of The Attacks And 6 Months B4 The Attacks(9/11), He Insured The WTC Complex For A RECORD 7 BILLION $$(With A Clause In The Policy SPECIFICALLY Covering A TERRORIST ATTACK)\n\nWell.. Mr. Silverstein Recently Purchased The Sears Tower And A Short Time Ago, Insured It For ANOTHER RECORD(UnDisclosed)Amount....\n\nThe SECURITY For WTC Was Provided By (Get This) MARVIN BUSH\nA Brother To George W And Jeb(Which May Explain How The FOLLOWING May Have Occurred)\n\nIt Is Being Investigated That The Buildings Were RIGGED For CONTROLLED FALL( Which Would Have Taken MONTHS)\nIncluding Building #7 (Which Was NOT HIT BY A PLANE And Had Minimal Fire Damage)\nIt Has Been Stated By Structural Engineers(Independant Of The Hokey Investigation By The Bush Crime Family)That It WAS NOT POSSIBLE That WTC 1 and 2 COLLAPSED From The Impact Of The Planes That Hit Them\nThe REASON BLDG 7 Was Destroyed Was To Conceal The EVIDENCE That The Buildings Were Dropped From A Control Bunker In The Basement(Where The Technicians "Ignited The Fuses" So To Speak)\nIt Is VERY Difficult To PROVE As The EVIDENCE Of These Crimes ( THE DEBRIS FROM THE COLLAPSES)Were HURRIED AWAY TO CHINA For RECYCLING After The Disaster\nThe So Called TERRORISTS That Were SUPPOSEDLY Flying Those Planes (Mohammed Atta And His 19 Friends) Well..16 Of The 19 Are In Fact Proven ALIVE With The Other 3 UnAccounted For ,But Presumed ALIVE\nIt Has Been Speculated That The 2 Planes Tht Hit The Towers Were Remotely Operated By The Military With NOONE Aboard\nFlight 93 (The One That "CRASHED" In PA) Is In Fact STILL In Service\nAnd At This Time , There Is NO EVIDENCE That A Plane Crashed Into The Pentagon, Although Something(A US Tomahawk Missile???) Did Fly Into And Destroy A Portion Of It\n\nWhat Ive Told You Is In EVIDENCE In A Theory Behind The Trade Center Attack Being An INSIDE JOB ORCHESTRATED By The BUSH Crime Family , And BLAMED On TERRORISTS So That Bush Could ILLEGALLY Go To War(Without The Approval Of Congress)\n\nFor MORE On This See: Alex Jones At Ground Zero\n\nhttp://martiallaw911.info/video.htm...\n\nSee Also: Loose Change 2nd Edition (Google It)\n\nIMPEACH BUSH NOW\n\nhttp://www.world-action.co.uk/explosives.html\n\nhttp://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm\n\nhttp://www.realestatejournal.com/propertyreport/newsandtrends/20040312-starkman.html\n\nhttp://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/200306charliesheen.htm\n\nhttp://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/collapse%20update/index.htm\n\nhttp://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/070805alternativemedia.htm\n\nhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm\n\nhttp://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2005/160605governmentcomplicit.htm\n\nhttp://martiallaw911.info/video.htm
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The Destruction of the World Trade Center:\nWhy the Official Account Cannot Be True\nDavid Ray Griffin\nAuthorized Version (with references & notes)\n\n \n\n \n\nIn The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11 (2004), I summarized dozens of facts and reports that cast doubt on the official story about 9/11. Then in The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions (2005a), I discussed the way these various facts and reports were treated by the 9/11 Commission, namely, by distorting or simply omitting them. I have also taken this big-picture approach, with its cumulative argument, in my previous essays and lectures on 9/11 (Griffin, 2005b and 2005d).[1] This approach, which shows every aspect of the official story to be problematic, provides the most effective challenge to the official story.\n\n     But this way of presenting the evidence has one great limitation, especially when used in lectures and essays: It means that the treatment of every particular issue must be quite brief, hence superficial. People can thereby be led to suspect that a more thorough treatment of any particular issue might show the official story to be plausible after all.\n\n     In the present essay, I focus on one question: why the Twin Towers and building 7 of the World Trade Center collapsed. One advantage of this focus, besides the fact that it allows us to go into considerable detail, is that the destruction of the World Trade Center provides one of the best windows into the truth about 9/11. Another advantage of this focus is that it will allow us to look at revelations contained in the 9/11 oral histories, which were recorded by the New York Fire Department shortly after 9/11 but released to the public only in August of 2005.\n\nI will begin with the question of why the Twin Towers collapsed, then raise the same question about building 7.\n\n \n\n \n\n1. The Collapse of the Twin Towers\n\n \n\nShortly after 9/11, President Bush advised people not to tolerate “outrageous conspiracy theories about the attacks of 11 September” (Bush, 2001).[2] Philip Zelikow, who directed the work of the 9/11 Commission, has likewise warned against “outrageous conspiracy theories” (Hansen, 2005). What do these men mean by this expression? They cannot mean that we should reject all conspiracy theories about 9/11, because the government’s own account is a conspiracy theory, with the conspirators all being members of al-Qaeda. They mean only that we should reject outrageous theories.\n\nBut what distinguishes an outrageous theory from a non-outrageous one? This is one of the central questions in the philosophy of science. When confronted by rival theories---let’s say Neo-Darwinian Evolution and Intelligent Design---scientists and philosophers of science ask which theory is better and why. The mark of a good theory is that it can explain, in a coherent way, all or at least most of the relevant facts and is not contradicted by any of them. A bad theory is one that is contradicted by some of the relevant facts. An outrageous theory would be one that is contradicted by virtually all the relevant facts.\n\n     With this definition in mind, let us look at the official theory about the Twin Towers, which says that they collapsed because of the combined effect of the impact of the airplanes and the resulting fires. The report put out by FEMA said: “The structural damage sustained by each tower from the impact, combined with the ensuing fires, resulted in the total collapse of each building” (FEMA, 2002).[3] This theory clearly belongs in the category of outrageous theories, because is it is contradicted by virtually all the relevant facts. Although this statement may seem extreme, I will explain why it is not.\n\n \n\nNo Prior Collapse Induced by Fire\n\nThe official theory is rendered implausible by two major problems. The first is the simple fact that fire has never---prior to or after 9/11---caused steel-frame high
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NO!!!!  Go to www.popularmechanics.com and find the article about debunking the 9/11 myths.  And please, please, use your common sense!  Why in the WORLD would the government do something like that?  And HOW?!  It would take YEARS to come up with such an idea, and longer to go through with it.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  Quit watching Loose Change!
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I was there...\n\nI was riding the A-train (one of many train lines heading into the NYC) on my way to school ( I was in college at the time). \n\nBut things were running very slow due to massive delays in the underground. People grew impatient and starting coming out of the trains, when suddenly rumors started spreading that two "small" planes hit the towers. Details were still hazy as information was being gathered at that point.\n\nThe train conductor had told people either to go home or take the F-train right across the platform. I was one of those people and took the F-train to Chambers street, three blocks from where the towers were hit.\n\nWhen I came up from the subway stairs, it was total grid-lock. Hundreds of thousands of people were crammed around the subway, on the streets. Traffic was non-existant, which was a fete in itself in this city. It seemed like everyone and their mother was on their cell phones, telling their loved ones what they were seeing.  They were all looking up at the same thing: The Burning towers.\n\nI couldn't believe it was that bad. Then I rushed over to the front my school, which is right across from City Hall NYC, and I bumped into a couple of friends. They told me they saw people jumping from the buildings where they stood and that they were totally horrified by what they were seeing. \n\nI worked in my school Library at the time and after finding out bits and pieces of what happened from my buddies outside, I went to inside the library. I rushed in to see my supervisor, but she left because her kids go to school a couple of blocks from the towers. Apparently she panicked and left to find her children right away.\n\nI went to speak to my co-workers and they told me at the time that the Pentagon got hit and some other plane that crashed (which was later found out to be United 93). And I was so freakin' shocked, it was unbelievable.... This was a plot. An actual terrorist plot.\n\nThen that's when it hit me: my aunt works in one of the towers and from there I was in FULL panic mode. \n\nI left the library to catch my breath and from there I wanted to call my dad to tell him what was going on and wanted ask him if heard anything from Auntie Rose(his sister), but couldn't get any service. \n\nThere was a huge-@ss line for use of the public phones for that very reason: Apparently, the lines were so busy that service got cut off.\n\nThen came the most horrible sounds and shaking I won't ever forget. I was like a Richter 10 earthquake the way the building shook. And all of a sudden you heard blood curdling screams and a huge bum rush of people scrambling for their lives. \n\nI was nearly frantic. I didn't know what was going on, so I ran down the other side of the lobby where there were glass windows which allowed you see exactly what was going on outside:  A massive smoke came from all directions of the streets, engulfing everything and everyone around it. It was quite the most horrifying scene I've ever witnessed. \n\nPeople were rushing down the streets in droves, but they couldn't outrun whatever the hell that was engulfing them.\n\nAll I could remember saying at the time, frozen at that very spot, was "Oh....My ...God. Oh, my f**kin' god."  For fear that something was going to crash through the windows, I ran like I never did in my life down the lobby (almost breaking my ankle) and raced down the stairs to the basement area.\n\nFrom there, things became a lot clearer: One of the towers had collapsed...and when I heard that, I couldn't believe it. No one could....  \n\nThe area was packed with students, professors and the security guards tried calming shocked and scared people, telling them  either to head to the basketball courts, which would serve as a make shift bomb-shelter in the Sub-level or for those who wanted to take a chance and run for it acroos the Brooklyn Bridge, were on their own.\n\nIt was one of the hardest decisions
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We don't need a "commission" to find out how 9-11 happened. The truth is in the timeline: \n\nPRESIDENT CARTER, DEMOCRAT \n\nIn 1979, President Jimmy Carter allowed the Shah of Iran to be deposed by a mob of Islamic fanatics. A few months later, Muslims stormed the U.S. Embassy in Iran and took American Embassy staff hostage. \n\nCarter retaliated by canceling Iranian visas. He eventually ordered a disastrous and humiliating rescue attempt, crashing helicopters in the desert. \n\nPRESIDENT REAGAN, REPUBLICAN \n\nThe day of Reagan's inauguration, the hostages were released. \n\nIn 1982, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslim extremists. \n\nPresident Reagan sent U.S. Marines to Beirut. \n\nIn 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up by Muslim extremists. \n\nReagan said the U.S. would not surrender, but Democrats threw a hissy fit, introducing a resolution demanding that our troops be withdrawn. Reagan caved in to Democrat caterwauling in an election year and withdrew our troops – bombing Syrian-controlled areas on the way out. Democrats complained about that, too. \n\nIn 1985, an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, was seized and a 69-year-old American was shot and thrown overboard by Muslim extremists. \n\nReagan ordered a heart-stopping mission to capture the hijackers after "the allies" promised them safe passage. In a daring operation, American fighter pilots captured the hijackers and turned them over to the Italians – who then released them to safe harbor in Iraq. \n\nOn April 5, 1986, a West Berlin discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen was bombed by Muslim extremists from the Libyan Embassy in East Berlin, killing an American. \n\nTen days later, Reagan bombed Libya, despite our dear ally France refusing the use of their airspace. Americans bombed Gadhafi's residence, killing his daughter, and dropped a bomb on the French Embassy "by mistake." \n\nReagan also stoked a long, bloody war between heinous regimes in Iran and Iraq. All this was while winning a final victory over Soviet totalitarianism. \n\nPRESIDENT BUSH I, MODERATE REPUBLICAN \n\nIn December 1988, a passenger jet, Pan Am Flight 103, was bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland, by Muslim extremists. \n\nPresident-elect George Bush claimed he would continue Reagan's policy of retaliating against terrorism, but did not. Without Reagan to gin her up, even Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher went wobbly, saying there would be no revenge for the bombing. \n\nIn 1990, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. \n\nIn early 1991, Bush went to war with Iraq. A majority of Democrats opposed the war, and later complained that Bush didn't "finish off the job" with Saddam. \n\nPRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRAT \n\nIn February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds. \n\nClinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing. \n\nIn October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered. \n\nClinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat." \n\nIn November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists. \n\nClinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing. \n\nIn June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists. \n\nClinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing. \n\nMonths later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil. \n\nClinton, advised by Dick Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces. \n\nIn November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their job
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There is NO DOUBT in my mind that the US government was behind it! Who benefited MOST from it. Bush got his war, the "Military Industrial Complex" is making hundreds of BILLIONS, Osama got away with it and is a martar to his followers. \n\nSome people will never believe no matter what the facts show. The same kinds of tactics have been used for hundreds of years. The German people didn't believe it in the 1930s & 40s either, and many still don't. But it happened.\n\nCalling people "conspiracy nuts" for entertaining the idea of OUR government being corrupt, doesn't change the fact that it ALWAYS has been. Some folks just refuse to consider such things. \n\nDoubters explain this: \n\nHow is it that burning jet fuel does NOT burn hot enough to melt steel, yet that is the "Official" explaination for the collapses of all 3 WTC buildings?\n\nWhy did the towers fall STRAIGHT DOWN? Physics would dictate that if the top was too heavy for the damaged area, it would have fallen to one side. \n\nWhy were police and firemen quoted as saying they witnessed multiple explosions in several locations (including in the basement) many far from the impact area. One so large it was measured on a reichter scale nearly 100 miles away.\n\nWhy did WTC building 7 go down? It was not hit and sustained very little damage from a fire in a small area of one floor.\n\nWhy did the owner of the buildings tell the FDNY to "pull" the building? It takes weeks to prep a building for demolition, yet they had it wired with explosives and leveled by 8 pm on september 11th.\n\nThese are the ONLY modern high rise building IN HISTORY to be brought down by fire!\n\nSo before discounting it offhand, at least try to answer the questions being raised.
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We need a REAL investigation if we are ever to find out Becuase despite the evidence people would rather hear it from a politician than learn the facts themselves.\n\nJust look at the pictures of the hole people!\n\nFlight 77's radar stops near Ohio/Kentucky border and is the only one of the four hijacked planes that wasn't able to be tracked all the way. (Flight Explorer, Washington Post) \n\nPentagon crash happened right in the middle of the only section being renovated to bolster it against an attack which severely limited damage and loss of life. (USA Today, Army) \n\nGas station and hotel's security cameras recorded Pentagon crash, but FBI arrived within minutes and confiscated films. (CNN, National Geographic) The FBI still wont allow americans to see 83 of them. Surely one of them shows something.\n\nLive at Pentagon crash, CNN reporter says there's no evidence a plane crashed anywhere near the building. (CNN) \n\nStudent ID of Flight 77 hijacker reportedly found at Pentagon, still able to read his name on it. (9/11 Commission) This happened a lot that day....
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There is no doubt that much more happen that day, which government is not telling us. If we recall that it was the time when the polls for president Bush were going down. But right after the attack the rating went up! so something did happen. Now the file is closed we will never get the true answer. Anybody who will raise the question will be labeled terrorist and unpatriotic.
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I've been spreading it around to as many people as possible. I believe 95% of it to be the truth. The only thing that I think they push the limits on is Marvin Bush's connection the WTC security. I dont think that has anything to do with it. But, having read the writings of Osama Bin Laden and having been very confused when the conflicting messages from him were given out, I find Loose Changes explanation much better than the governments. I remember when Bin Laden released a statement declaring his innocence, and I remember wondering what was up with that so called "confession tape". Having read his writings, he did not strike me as a flip-flopper or a liar. I dont agree with him, but he stands for what he believes in, and one of the things he makes a point of stressing is honesty.\n\nFor my part I believe George Bush and his administration are behind the 9-11 attacks.\n\n\nPeace
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Its not that its too early... its just that i don't think people want to see something that it true and makes them sad. And the government hasnt even released the full report about flight 93. Some of it is going to be written by hollywood writers. We don't even know how it happened. And noone was even on that flighy anyway. Did anyone besides me happen to nitotce no airplane parts were found... or even dead bodies. \n\nhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change&pl=true\n\nView that video. It totally changed my view point on who the bad guys were on Sept. 11. Its 1 hour and 20 minutes long though... its called "Loose Change: 2nd Edition".
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Why ask? You don't even believe 9/11 happened the way it did and you apparently don't respond well to questions as to what you do believe happened. \n\nAs to this question, absolutely it should have been responded to exactly the way it was except that our government should stop worrying about what liberals say and carry out the war with all the necessary force. Further, I just don't understand why some believe that Saddam Hussein or the Taliban is so much preferred to the U.S. democratic political system. That's what we know so that's what we teach. Seems to have served you well.
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This question is on the vague side, if it is a question at all, it appears to be more of a statement. The 9/11 hijackings and the aftermath have been documented. There is no debate in my mind and perhaps in those of other Americans minds. \n\nIt's done. One perpetrator has been brought to justice and we need to move so that this doesn't happen again for the sake of our children and grandchildren.\n\nI lost friends that I had gone through training with, it's still very hard to see and comprehend. I don't think that I ever will, when I do, I have become to callous for this world.
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Most all the evidence that is available to us, show that the WTC buildings were rigged with explosives. Our own government had motive as was well as an opportunity to do this crime. Here is the evidence, presented for your scrutiny. \n\nFAKE CONFESSION\nThe official government story is that the 9/11 attack was orchestrated by Al Qaeda, which is lead by Osama bin Laden. The proof our government provided was a video with Osama confessing to the crime. The problem with the video is that the person in the video does not look like Osama bin Laden: See picture.\nhttp://911blimp.net/vid_fakeOsamaVideo.shtml\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk519bkcLjg\n\nEVIDENCE\nThere are many other factors that do not fit the official story. They include, secondary explosions that were seen, heard, reported, and recorded by firefighters, in and around the WTC buildings.\nhttp://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=firefighter+bombs+in+the+building\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHz9YWVgJWM\n\nHere is a video clip showing a trail of explosions just before the destruction wave.\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_DkzhonpGY&mode=related&search=\n\nMolten, beyond red hot, "steel" was video recorded coming out of the South Tower just before it collapsed. Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to turn steel to liquid.  Melted red hot steel was also found in "ground zero" of all three WTC buildings, including WTC7, that was not even hit by a jet.\nhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=ExrVgioIXvk&search=thermite\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3D2myMbQjQ\n\nFORENSICS\nA chemical analysis of the solidified molten iron,conducted by independent firms, yielded an explosive, called Thermite. Also found was a WTC core beam; most probably cut using the demolition cutting charge (Thermate). No core beams were left standing beyond a few feet high, for it to have been cut by an Iron Workers torch. Click on pic. to enlarge.\nhttp://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml\n\nCONFESSION \nWe also have a video recording, where owner Larry Silverstein, admits to demolishing WTC7.\nhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7750532340306101329\n\nTESTIMONY\nThere is also a problem with the Pentagon attack. Listen to this retired general, He says, "The Plane does not fit the hole; so what did hit the Pentagon..."\nhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2VoUN-7RVU&eurl=\n \nThis video, obtained by a public interest group, shows the top rear fin of an air craft  hiding behind a call box:  Whatever is hiding back there, is under 48 ft. long, to small to be a Boeing 757, which is over 155 ft. long.\nhttp://www.clipaday.com/2006/05/pentagon_plane_crash_from_sept.html\n\nMOTIVE\nThe New Conservatives (Neo-Cons), with the help of their friends, started planning the invasion of Iraq, shortly after Pres. Bush took office. Apparently, the plan would include the attack of the WTC buildings. It did this to get the support of congress and the nation, to attack Iraq. Read it from their own PENAC document. Pay special attention to the section entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" page 50 and the top of page 51, where it states we need a new Pearl Harbor attack to get the ball rolling.\nhttp://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf\n\nOPPORTUNITY\nWitnesses saw a work crew going into the WTC buildings with rolls of wire, supposedly for internet upgrades. Tenants were moved around while crews "upgraded" the cable systems. The Port Authority cut power to the building for a whole weekend, just prior to the attack; shutting down the entire security systems. Witnesses also heard crews operating heavy hammering equipment that left a gray cement like dust, in the building. This activity took place just weeks before the 911 attack: The Port Authority had released control of the buildings to Larry Silverstein, six weeks prior to the attack: He made upwards of $5 billion off