TRINITY, Do you believe in it, and please state bible Scriptures to back up your answer?
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Yes, but not a trinity of God as 3 persons. He is manifested to man in 3 ways...or offices/ministries...but God is one and the same person.\n\nISAIAH 45:21\nTell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.\n\nTo say that He is more than one person, is paganism.\nThe Doctrine of the Trinity is a Roman Catholic doctrine from the Council of Nicea, 325 A.D.\n\nGod is a Spirit. As a Spirit He has no physical form to show Himself to us. The Bible says that Jesus was God, as a man...the express image of God.\nJesus said He and the Father are the same person.\n\nJOHN 14:7-9\n7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.\n8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. \n9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? \n\nMany Trinitarians say that when God said, "Let us make man in our own image", that it denotes God speaking to the two other persons in the Godhead. But there is no Scriptures that say He is 3 persons. He was speaking to us. We were in Him, before the foundation of the world.\n\nWE ARE NOT HUMAN BEINGS HAVING A SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE, WE ARE SPIRITUAL BEINGS HAVING A HUMAN EXPERIENCE\n\nHe is FATHER, above us.\nHe is SON, with us.\nHe is HOLY SPIRIT, in us.\n\nOne God, 3 manifestations.\n\nI AM THE LORD I CHANGE NOT -MALACHI 3:6\nJESUS CHRIST THE SAME YESTERDAY, AND TODAY, AND FOREVER -HEBREWS 13:8\n\nCOLOSSIANS 2:9\nFor in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.\n\nI TIMOTHY 3:16\nAnd without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.\n\nHEBREWS 1:3\nWho being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; \n("RIGHT HAND" symbolizes POWER, this is throughout the Old Testament)\n\nAsk yourself this, can a Spirit bleed?...\nACTS 20:28\nTake heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.\n\nCompare ISAIAH 45:21,22,23 with ROMANS 14:11 and PHILIPPIANS 2:10,11...there is only ONE SAVIOUR!\n\nEPHESIANS 4:5,6\n5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, \n6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. \n\nLORD (Father) - JESUS (Son) - CHRIST (Holy Ghost)\n\nTo learn more go here...\nhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/bibletruth...\nThen click on DOCTRINES OF DEVILS\nThen click on THE TRINITY\n\nYou can also go here...\nThe Trinity - Christian Or Pagan?\nhttp://www.bridemessage.org/thustrin.htm...\n\nMay God bless you, as you seek His' Truth.
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God created the universe as a trinity father Son and holy spirit the three togeather equal one God. so no as the Son acted at his father's word and god's spirit formed things as an action, that 's why when you do anything it's by thought word and deed. as we are also a triune being mind body and soul/spirit. though if he wanted to he could.
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The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. However, the Holy Trinity is hinted at repeatedly in both the Old and New Testaments. \n\nThe early Christians prayed and struggled over these hints for a couple of centuries. The concept of the Holy Trinity (three persons in one God) was mainstream Christianity in 325 A.D. at the Council of Nicaea and our belief is expressed in the Nicene Creed from that council:\n\nWe believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen. \n\nWe believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Through Him, all things were made. For us and our salvation, He came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day, He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures: He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end. \n\nWe believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son, He is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen. \n\nWith love in Christ.
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God,\nThe Holy Trinity,\nThe Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.\n\nAll other doctrines and beliefs are centered in the Triune God.\n\nWith love in Christ.
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NO....the Bible does NOT support the man-taught doctrine of the trinity. \n\nThe teaching of the trinity is completely UNSUPPORTED by the Bible. It's a doctrine taught by man, not the Holy Bible. Jesus Christ is a being that was created by God, as both Colossians 1:15 and Revelation 3:14 make perfectly clear. Since he was created by God, in no way, then, can he BE God. It simply doesn't work. \n\nThe testimony of others in the Bible, including the demons of Satan that he came across on certain occasions, makes it very clear that Jesus was and is the SON of God, and not God himself. A misinterpretation of scriptures such as John 1:1 has led people astray, into thinking that God is broken down into 3 parts. That is not the case.\n\nNotice a few of the "proof texts" people try and use to establish the trinity and how they just don't work:\n\n“I and the Father Are One”\n\nTHAT text, at John 10:30, is often cited to support the Trinity, even though no third person is mentioned there. But Jesus himself showed what he meant by his being “one” with the Father. At John 17:21, 22, he prayed to God that his disciples “may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, . . . that they may be one just as we are one.” Was Jesus praying that all his disciples would become a single entity? No, obviously Jesus was praying that they would be united in thought and purpose, as he and God were.—See also 1 Corinthians 1:10.\n\nAt 1 Corinthians 3:6, 8, Paul says: “I planted, Apollos watered . . . He that plants and he that waters are one.” Paul did not mean that he and Apollos were two persons in one; he meant that they were unified in purpose. The Greek word that Paul used here for “one” (hen) is neuter, literally “one (thing),” indicating oneness in cooperation. It is the same word that Jesus used at John 10:30 to describe his relationship with his Father. It is also the same word that Jesus used at John 17:21, 22. So when he used the word “one” (hen) in these cases, he was talking about unity of thought and purpose.\n\nRegarding John 10:30, John Calvin (who was a Trinitarian) said in the book Commentary on the Gospel According to John: “The ancients made a wrong use of this passage to prove that Christ is . . . of the same essence with the Father. For Christ does not argue about the unity of substance, but about the agreement which he has with the Father.”\n\nRight in the context of the verses after John 10:30, Jesus forcefully argued that his words were not a claim to be God. He asked the Jews who wrongly drew that conclusion and wanted to stone him: “Why do you charge me with blasphemy because I, consecrated and sent into the world by the Father, said, ‘I am God’s son’?” (John 10:31-36, NE) No, Jesus claimed that he was, not God the Son, but the Son of God.\n\n“Making Himself Equal to God”?\n\nANOTHER scripture offered as support for the Trinity is John 5:18. It says that the Jews (as at John 10:31-36) wanted to kill Jesus because “he was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God.”\n\nBut who said that Jesus was making himself equal to God? Not Jesus. He defended himself against this false charge in the very next verse (19): “To this accusation Jesus replied: . . . ‘the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing.’”—JB.\n\nBy this, Jesus showed the Jews that he was not equal to God and therefore could not act on his own initiative. Can we imagine someone equal to Almighty God saying that he could “do nothing by himself”? (Compare Daniel 4:34, 35.) Interestingly, the context of both John 5:18 and 10:30 shows that Jesus defended himself against false charges from Jews who, like the Trinitarians, were drawing wrong conclusions!\n\n“Equal With God”?\n\nAT PHILIPPIANS 2:6 the Catholic Douay Version (Dy) of 1609 says of Jesus: “Who be
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I believe in the God of the Bible. None of your definitions encapsulated that entirely. Somewhere between 1.and 2.
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Yes, lots of people do. I was brought up to believe that Jesus was the son of God and that God himself was a different person, not a trinity. I'm not religious now, but when you've had the same thing told to you since you were a small child it's difficult to unbelieve.
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the trinity is a polytheistic belief but Christians believe that they are monotheistic because they believe that these three people are three parts of one deity, which is NOT supported by the bible,\n\nthis belief was created by emperor Constantine, who was a pagan but converted to Christianity and wanted every other pagan too also, so he made the church start this dogma, it is not true the father the son and the holy spirit are three different beings, the son and the holy spirit are NOT to be worshiped. \nJesus is the SON and is not God himself. the concept of the Trinity is blasphemous and absurd.
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I believe in God but not the trinity. (God is not all in Jesus, but Jesus was all God)\n\nBut even as a God he had to humiliate himself, by walking on the earth as a man.\n\nTraits of a human Body\nJesus became wearied ( tired ) ( John 4:6 ) \nJesus became hungry ( Luke 4:2 , Mt 4:2 , Mark 11:12 ) \non the cross just before he died he said I thirst ( John 19:28 ) \n\nHe showed human emotion\nJesus wept ( John 11:35 ) \nJesus loved ( Mark 10:21 , John 11:15 , John 11:36 , John 15:12 , John 19:26 ....) \nJesus was angry ( Mark 11:11-21 ) \n\nAn argument for support of the married status of Jesus is that bachelorhood was very rare for Jewish males of Jesus' time, being generally regarded as a transgression of the first mitzvah (divine commandment) — "Be fruitful and multiply". According to this reasoning, it would have been unthinkable for an adult, unmarried Jew to travel about teaching as a rabbi.\n\nIn The Gospel of Philip, it is said: \n"There were three who always walked with the Lord: Mary, his mother, and her sister, and Magdalene, the one who was called his companion. His sister and his mother and his companion were each a Mary." \n\nAs for the Wisdom who is called "the barren," she is the mother of the angels. And the companion of the Lord Mary Magdalene. Jesus loved her more than all the disciples, and used to kiss her often on her mouth. \n\nLogically and realistically they could have been married and had a child/children. He came here to walk as a man, it was not then and it is not now  a sin to be married, engage in intercourse, and have a child.\n\nLogically and realistically he could have been totally divine, felt all the worst mankind had to offer, and very little of the joy. which is really what he was sent here to do, die for our sin.\n\nHopefully, we will see all the truth in heaven.
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Jesus was NOT God, For the Scriptures plainly states that he was the SON of God, the father. \n\nGod Is One, Not Three\n\nTHE Bible teaching that God is one is called monotheism. And L. L. Paine, professor of ecclesiastical history, indicates that monotheism in its purest form does not allow for a Trinity: “The Old Testament is strictly monotheistic. God is a single personal being. The idea that a trinity is to be found there . . . is utterly without foundation.”\n\nWas there any change from monotheism after Jesus came to the earth? Paine answers: “On this point there is no break between the Old Testament and the New. The monotheistic tradition is continued. Jesus was a Jew, trained by Jewish parents in the Old Testament scriptures. His teaching was Jewish to the core; a new gospel indeed, but not a new theology. . . . And he accepted as his own belief the great text of Jewish monotheism: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one God.’”\n\nThose words are found at Deuteronomy 6:4. The Catholic New Jerusalem Bible (NJB) here reads: “Listen, Israel: Yahweh our God is the one, the only Yahweh.” In the grammar of that verse, the word “one” has no plural modifiers to suggest that it means anything but one individual.\n\nThe Christian apostle Paul did not indicate any change in the nature of God either, even after Jesus came to the earth. He wrote: “God is only one.”—Galatians 3:20; see also 1 Corinthians 8:4-6.\n\nThousands of times throughout the Bible, God is spoken of as one person. When he speaks, it is as one undivided individual. The Bible could not be any clearer on this. As God states: “I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory.” (Isaiah 42:8) “I am Yahweh your God . . . You shall have no gods except me.” (Italics ours.)—Exodus 20:2, 3, JB.\n\nWhy would all the God-inspired Bible writers speak of God as one person if he were actually three persons? What purpose would that serve, except to mislead people? Surely, if God were composed of three persons, he would have had his Bible writers make it abundantly clear so that there could be no doubt about it. At least the writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures who had personal contact with God’s own Son would have done so. But they did not.\n\nInstead, what the Bible writers did make abundantly clear is that God is one Person—a unique, unpartitioned Being who has no equal: “I am Jehovah, and there is no one else. With the exception of me there is no God.” (Isaiah 45:5) “You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”—Psalm 83:18.\n\nWas Jesus Considered to Be God? No!\n\nWHILE Jesus is often called the Son of God in the Bible, nobody in the first century ever thought of him as being God the Son. Even the demons, who “believe there is one God,” knew from their experience in the spirit realm that Jesus was not God. So, correctly, they addressed Jesus as the separate “Son of God.” (James 2:19; Matthew 8:29) And when Jesus died, the pagan Roman soldiers standing by knew enough to say that what they had heard from his followers must be right, not that Jesus was God, but that “certainly this was God’s Son.”—Matthew 27:54.\n\nHence, the phrase “Son of God” refers to Jesus as a separate created being, not as part of a Trinity. As the Son of God, he could not be God himself, for John 1:18 says: “No one has ever seen God.”—RS, Catholic edition.\n\nThe disciples viewed Jesus as the “one mediator between God and men,” not as God himself. (1 Timothy 2:5) Since by definition a mediator is someone separate from those who need mediation, it would be a contradiction for Jesus to be one entity with either of the parties he is trying to reconcile. That would be a pretending to be something he is not.\n\nThe Bible is clear and consistent about the relationship of God to Jesus. Jehovah God alone is Almighty. He created the prehuman Jesus directly. T
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The concept of the Trinity is often hard to grasp. In your question, you seem to show that you believe that the Trinity did not always exist. According to John 1, Jesus was with God, in God, and God from the begining, they were never seperate (except when Jesus took on the world's sins on the cross). in John 10, Jesus states that 'I and the father are one,' in John 10:30. The plainest biblical evidence for the Trinity falls in 1 John 5:7, where it says "7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. "\n\nEach Godhead (The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit) are God, and the same one God, yet they are different. They each have their distinctive roles, yet are one unit.
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In Christianity the trinity is belived to be a mathimatical annomaliy. Instead of 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 (Father, Son, and Holy spirit) it is actually 100% for all three. The debate over free will versus destiny has existed since time began. I believe in a divine creator and His rule over my life, but I also believe in free will. To me it is another annomaliy in our reality. I believe we have 100% free will, but that we are also 100% bound to our destiny. I don't think it's one or the other, but rather both in a very complete way. \n\nWith that in mind we are divided in our aims and goals based on our relation with that source. Since we all carry the same creator and that creator gave us free will, we all take different paths. One leads to that creator, others don't. I would love it if pluralism applied to reality, but since all faiths say they are THE one, then they all can't be right. Especially with Christianity. Christ said "I am the way, the truth, and the light. No one comes to the Father except through the Son." In that scripture He is saying that you can only take one path to reach God and no other.\n\nImagine a city street with millions of pedestrains. Half of them are going in one direction and the other half are going in the oppposite direction. They are bumping and shoving and stumbling on to each other. This is the human experience. One group is traveling towards the creator and what is good, the other half is traveling away from the creator to satisfy their pride. Either way you travel you will have conflict and you will bump into others with different aims, goals, and destinies. What really matters is that you travel with kindness, love, and in the right direction.\n\nlightbringer1979@yahoo.com\n\nGodspeed\n\nP.S. Just one note on a comment above. The Muslims and Christians actually DO worship the same God. And both believe in Christ as well. It's just that Christians believe He is the son of God.
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congratulations for using your mind\n\n-------\n\nfirst of all, trinity is not understandable. There is only one God. not three in one God. \nIf God is the Father and also the Son, then He would then be the Father of Himself because He is His own Son. This is illogical!\n\n\n-------\nfurthermore, look and this verse of bible. \n\nMark 13:32 \n"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." \n\nIf Jesus and God are equal then they should be equal in knowledge. But as we can see, God is greater in knowledge than Jesus. The fact that one "personality" of God has knowledge not available to the other "two thirds" is a clear indication that they are distinct and separate beings, and not three faces of one being.\nAnd if, as some suggest, the Son was limited by his human nature from knowing, the question remains, Why did the Holy Spirit not know?\n\nSome say his human nature prevented him from knowing. Reasonably, though, if, as some believe, he was fully God, nothing could prevent him from knowing. How can human nature prevent God from knowing anything, particularly something of such import?  That further proves that Jesus was not all-powerful, because if he was all-powerful, then he would have power to know the final hour and to give himself this knowledge. \n\nFurthermore, if someone thinks that Jesus the man did not know, then he is missing a point that according to Christians, Jesus was 100% man and 100% God in one body. It means, Jesus possessed the same intellect of God and man.  If he had the same intellect then he should have same knowledge. But when we read the text it says only the father knows. This means that even the "DIVINE JESUS" doesn't know. This means that no one else knows including the divine Jesus. Therefore, Jesus lacks being All-knowing. and we know that God is All-knowing, hence, Jesus cannot be God. \n\n\n\n\n\nQuran (holy book of islam) says in chapter  4 verse 171 \n"Say not ‘Trinity’: desist: \nIt will be better for you for \nAllah is one God."\n[Al-Qur’an 4:171]\n\n \n\nQuran says in Surah Maidah chapter 5 verse 73\n"They do blaspheme who say\nGod is one of three\nIn a Trinity: for there is \nNo god except One God.\nIf they desist not\nFrom their word (of blasphemy),\nVerily a grievous penalty\nWill befall the blasphemers\nAmong them."\n\n=================\n\nHOPE THIS ANSWERS
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The trinity is in the Bible. Jesus said that he was ascending to his Father and would send the Holy Spirit in his place.\n\nDoes it matter? Well, yeah. When you accept salvation, you come to better know God the Father through Christ's mercy, and part of how you come to know God better is by heeding the guidance of the Holy Spirit, which is sent to you once you accept Christ.\n\nAs for whether or not you can still be saved if you don't believe this, it's a moot point. If you accept salvation, you will be sent the Holy Spirit, and you will--if you heed that guidance--come to know God the Father better. That is, whether you believe this beforehand or not, it is what will happen in your life if you are earnestly seeking the will of God.
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There is no mention of the " Trinity" in the Bible, I hate to admit that so many Christians have been brainwashed into beleiving it is but it is an unscriptural representation of God. If more people would read the good book themselves they wouldn't be so easily fooled. And to all the people that are using  the name Elohim to infer a Trinity, Elohim is a name of God in reference to his role as Creator. I suspectt he concept of the Trinity is an absorbed pagan belief like so many others in modern day Christianity.
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JUST PRESENTING MY PERSPECTIVE.. NOT TO OFFEND MY CHRISTIAN FRIENDS HERE\n..\n\nThis is called as blind belief.\n\none person, God the Father + one person, God the Son + one person, God the Holy Ghost = one person, God the What? \n\n1+1+1=3 NOT 1\n\n1*3 =3 NOT 1\n\nIf God is the Father and also the Son, then He would then be the Father of Himself because He is His own Son. This is illogical!\n\nthey believe because they are told to believe blindly, and God forbids us to believe blindly.\n\nAnd do not follow (blindly) any information of which you have no (direct) knowledge. (Using your faculties of perception and conception, you must verify it for yourself. (In the Court of your Lord,) you will be held accountable for your hearing, sight, and the faculty of reasoning."[Quran 17:36]\n\n\n\n===========\n\nFURTHERMORE..........................\nThe Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. The word "Trinity" does not exist anywhere in the whole Bible, but it is mentioned in the Glorious Qur’an \n\n                        \nchapter 4 verse 171 \n"Say not ‘Trinity’: desist: \nIt will be better for you for \nAllah is one God."\n[Al-Qur’an 4:171]\n\n \n\nQuran says in Surah Maidah chapter 5 verse 73\n"They do blaspheme who say\nAllah is one of three\nIn a Trinity: for there is \nNo god except One God.\nIf they desist not\nFrom their word (of blasphemy),\nVerily a grievous penalty\nWill befall the blasphemers\nAmong them."
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Friend, the trinity doctine will always dis-agreed with there is only One God, They try to make Jesus God, when they do that then they are saying God Died. I was once myself a trinity when I first got saved in 1970, The Godhead is the very first thing God revealed to me. If those Trinity believers, can prove that anyone in the bible were ever baptized in the TITLES of the father, son, & holy ghost, I would like to see it, Everyone that was baptized was Baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.