Has anyone ever heard the Christian saying that is some where along the lines of Trials are not (something)?
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Yes it is proving ourselves to God but He has made it easy through Christ. \n\nIt goes back to the Garden of Eden.\n\nGen 2:16  And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: \nGen 2:17  But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. \n\nGod is talking about assimilating or consuming knowledge from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, that is Satan.\nThis is the death of soul God is talking about here.\n\nEze 18:4  Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. \n\nThat's why God said;\n\nGen 3:22  And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: \n\nWe must now assimilate or consume knowledge from the tree of life, that is Jesus Christ, to save our soul.
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That some people will not take God's word seriously and not make it to heaven.
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It's actually "Thou shalt not murder."\n\nLet me elaborate.  A "murder" is an unlawful killing.  For example, in the New Testament, Christ says that if a person hate without a cause, that person has murdered in his heart.  The operative words are "without a cause."\n\nGod ordered certain peoples to be killed because they had become so sinful, so evil, that they were hurting themselves and people around them.  For example, one king had conquered 40 other kings, cut off their thumbs and big toes, and then had them scavange for food under his table.\n\nEver try to pick up food with out thumbs or walk without big toes?\n\nWhat will become of the peoples God wiped out?  The Bible says that these people will be ressurrected.  They aren't banished to hell fire.  They will all be raised from the dead and have a chance to do better.\n\nSo it's really like God forcing them to take a nap until He can deal with them.
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Not unbiblical, just unpopular to the "world"...\n\nTotal Depravity : does not mean that everybody is an ax murderer..it means ALL are guilty of some sin\nIsa 64:6  But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. \n\n(Rom 3:19)  Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.\n(Rom 3:20)  Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.\n\nUNCONDITIONAL Election...means you can't earn your way to heaven...goes hand in hand with total depravity..\n(Joh 1:11)  He came unto his own, and his own received him not.\n(Joh 1:12)  But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:\n(Joh 1:13)  Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.\n\nEph 1:4  According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: \n(Eph 1:5)  Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,\n(Eph 1:6)  To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.\n\n\nLimited Atonement:\n(1Co 8:6)  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.\n(1Co 8:7)  Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.\n\nAct 10:41  Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. \n\nMat 7:14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. \n\nMat 20:16  So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen. \n\n(Joh 10:26)  But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.\n(Joh 10:27)  My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:\n(Joh 10:28)  And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.\n(Joh 10:29)  My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.\n(Joh 10:30)  I and my Father are one.\n\nIrresistable Grace:\n\n(Gal 1:10)  For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.\n(Gal 1:11)  But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.\n(Gal 1:12)  For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.\n(Gal 1:13)  For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:\n(Gal 1:14)  And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers.\n(Gal 1:15)  But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace,\n(Gal 1:16)  To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:\n\nPerseverance of the Saint's.. merely echoes the above (total depravity & uncond. election)..we are Christian's not by any great or good thing we do; but, by the will of God...who can stand against the Almighty God???\n\n(Joh 10:29)  My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.\n\n2Ti 2:13  If we
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i'm not that comfortble with some rules... such as polygamy etc. i believe faith is not measured in actions but how you believe in the creator
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The saying is "Christianity isn't a religion. It's a relationship." It means that being Christian isn't just believing something. It's actually talking to and trusting God, and putting your whole life in His hands. It's like a friendship that can never be broken. Christianity isn't just reading Scriptures and obeying commandments. It's truly loving Jesus. It's trusting that if something bad happens, everything will turn out okay, and if it doesn't, there's a reason. Praying isn't simply keeping your religion's rules, it's communicating with the Lord. That's what it means.
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According to Hebrew 12:5-13 & 1 Corinthians 11:32\n\nA “Christian” who is not disciplined by God is not a true Disciple... but are rather illegitimate children.  God only disciplines and rebuke those who love him.  The destruction that comes upon the ungodly is God’s wrath.  Sometimes discipline comes in the form of a trial... other times sickness or weakness... it varies... but God disciplines his children so that they will not be condemned with the rest of the world.
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The greater point was not who sat there, but how they behaved there - Jesus clearly told them vs 3: (my paraphrase) follow the rules but don't do like they do - they say do and then don't.
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No matter what you are or call yourself the trials will still be there. They will still come. No it's about god. He saved me more than I can tell you. I have had pain unbearable pain I called on Jesus The pain did not leave  all at once. but it left.If a higher power can not help No one can.<My higher power is Jesus > Don't let anyone steal your joy.
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The scripture is taken out of context as quoted above.  The verse is in I Corinthians.  It says, "There is no temptation taken you but such as is common to man.  But, God is faithful.  He will not allow you to be tempted above what you can bear, but with the temptation will make a way of escape that you might be able to bear it."  (I'm quoting from memory King James version, so it's not exact)  The verse promises that God will make a way to escape temptation.  It doesn't say he will force us to take the avenue of escape.  That is entirely up to us.
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I have to totally agree with this quote. I have a relative that thinks if you don't go to HIS church (whichever one it is at the time) then you aren't serving God. I believe exactly what the Bible says about having eternal life; and it DON'T say that only the Baptists, or Catholics, or Methodists, or Pentecostals..etc are going to receive this gift of eternal life. God is God and he isn't any of these RELIGIONS...my opinion
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Acting on faith strengthens it. Testing God might not be the same thing
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As I am Jewish, I find a lot of contradictions in Christians. And narrow minded ideals, which is also a contradiction, as Jesus taught the exact OPPOSITE of that sort of behaviour. So forgive me, but you goyim just confuse the hell out of me.
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Those words are not of God and not of Christ. A Christian who says those things is not acting as a Christian should. These are deceptions of the devil and are based on hatred.\n\nYou, I see from many of your posts, are grappling with these questions. But you post them as if they were insults or jokes. I see through that. You are partly consumed by a temptation to persecute Christians. You are partly ruled by this and have no control over it. And it bothers you. But your resolution is a false one, in that you believe Christians are at the root of this lack of inner control. It feeds the flames and you relinquish more self-mastery as time passes.\n\nThe proof is that at this moment you are probably saying this is stupid and you will try to ignore it. Ignorance is your tool to continue the persecution. As long as you refuse to understand what Christianity teaches then you can continue to mock it with half-sincere questions based out of your inner conflicts.\n\nIt is not Christians you have a problem with. It is yourself. But go ahead and scoff and continue on in the path of slavery to your emotions.
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Not all Christians believe that. I am a christian and I personally believe that god will not punish those who were not taught correctly. Not saying that what I believe it the Correct thing from one religion to another, but it is what I believe. But I do believe that if you are taught about god, and what is right and wrong and you chose to disobey him then you might not end up in heaven. I believe that god is forgiving, and not judgmental to those that know no better.
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Yes it does sound like christians are shooting themselves in the foot. its quite amusing. I also think that on some subconciese level that the guilt fear and shame inside them darkens thier hearts until they are unaware they are doing anything wrong or believing anything wrong/.;
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so...are you asking a question or what? sounds to me like you already have your answer either way.\nthe idea you're talking about (better safe than sorry) actually has a name-it's referred to as Pascal's Wager. Pascal was some sort of famous thinker, and he posed that as his reason for obeying God.\nbut please keep in mind, not all Christians have this as their motivation. I don't know for sure that all nonbelievers are going to burn in a lake of fire, and you'll never see me threaten that on Yahoo.\nbelieve it or not, I serve God in the here and now, with a willing heart, and in the end, if He says there is no heaven, it wasn't a waste of time.