i have been told that the military isnt responsible for what the recruiter says, so the recruiter could lie!!!
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First yes the recruiter can lie and no the military isn't responsible for what the recruiter says UNLESS it is written in your enlistment contract, then and only then the military has to uphold it.  \n\nSecond most of the time a recruiter is not going to say this or that will happen unless it is going to be in your contract.  \n\nThird you should read the contract before you sign it. The basic thing to remember is if you want something GET IT IN WRITTING. If it isn't in writting it wont happen.
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WOW,  one in about 10,000.  Sounds like it's anarchy in the streets as the entire military opposes the war.  And a 1st LT at that.  That's not even a real officer - the coward.\n\nHey I noticed you took down that phony pic from your avatar of the Purple Heart license plate you were pretending to have.  Good move.  Conscience get to you or was that advice from your "lawyer"?  That was one of the most despicable acts I've ever seen a non military person do if you ask me.\n\nAnd since you apparently don't have a valid email according to yahoo - I thought you deserved an answer I will answer your last email to me here.  Just so we all understand, I'll include a copy of your note.\n\nFrom: cantcu \n\nSubject: Military.. \n\nMessage: I was in the military for 8 years active! Wanna see my DD214?\n\nYour remarks are libelous and if I were you, you better be damn careful where you tread because you are full of BS.\n\nKets compare our discharges. If you have one!! \n\n\nMY RESPONSE\n\nLet's see that 214.  Scan it & email it to me.  BTW, what did they suggest  you do with it at discharge?  What was that MOS again? What is "pinger" to a GI?  \n\nI notice it  took a month to answer one of half a dozen questions I asked you.  I suppose you had to Google it?\n\nSo sue me jack*ss.  I can't wait till your attorney says you have no actionable damages.  Let me put it into terms even you might understand. \n\nAs you're sniveling in her office, your attorney asks "Now, now little cantcu, what's the problem?  You wipe your tears and reply, "This guy is saying I was never in the military.  It's making me look like a real poser on a Q&A forum where nobody knows who I am".  And then she says, "Hum, cantcu you've got a real problem.  Since knowbody knows who you are, that's going to be a tough one."  \n\nSince you don't have a real job, as you hear it, you breakdown and start crying again because you were  expecting a really big pay day.  \n\nBlubbering through your tears, you ask very eloquently, "Huh?"  She relies "Yeah, sorry dumb *ss, its going to be hard to prove how you were liabled under an annonymous screen name." And you very eloquently ask once again but this time louder,   "HUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!"  \n\nShe's says, "Hit the road.  Besides, you are a f*cking POSER."  "Somebody get this poser out of here", she yells in revultion.\n\nNo charge for the legal advice, POSER.\n\nHold on, let me check that email account & pull up that 214.  Is it there yet? Nope, didn't think so.\n\nAs for my service, US Air force AFSC 303X3. My squadron was responsible for more kills during Vietnam (it was a war right?) than any other military MOS or SC.  Have an extra pair of clean pink panties with you sometime and we can talk about it.\n\nHmm, maybe that's why I find your POSING so reprehensible.
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Because you are complete idiot. Even when I was 13 and the pathetic recruiters came to the high school, I knew it would be a bad choice. I did not need to expose myself to the nonsense to realize that the whole system is a farce. I mean why are they going to teach me to fire a gun for? Ummmm.... obviously to make someone die. Not a good thing. Why are they offering me money for? There must be other get rich quick plans out there. Not a good thing. Why am I going to be fighting for anyways? Unintellegent testosterone fueled human wastes say so. \nAs I got older they tell me to support the troops. I have to, they take out an absurd amount of money from my hard earned check a week. Then I read and see that former service personell kill their kids, wife, themselves and I think "Hey, I want my money back, with the highest amount of interest compounded daily as allowed by the law(that I paid for as well to pass). Then I hear you stupid chumps complain about your decision and I say to you- "Where is my money?"
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nO, of course no, you should only tell me. ( I promise I will not tell anyone else)\n\nSeriously, they do this because they are idiots. There are some people who get married for money to sell the USA citizenship and this is their brilliant plan to Catch them.\nI guess they do not realize that  people who are trying to do this for illegal reason would not think to lie. maybe they interview each person separately and see if they name the same times. HMMMM?\nso you have to get your stories straight if you are going to cheat and lie.\nWhat if you are sincere but just cannot rememeber when you banged your old lady or accidentally give a date that was with your mistress. OOPS\nI guess you have to keep notes or put notches on the bedpost.\nsome guys may brag and say ten times when it was only one. Oops.\nwhat a silly world we live in!
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I have done the same thing at one time....I contacted the branch of military and told them when he was there and his social security number and any other information they have....I actually got sent copies of enlistment papers and discharge papers....Hope this helps
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I will give you an eyewitness statement. First, I'm not from Texas (I'm a Tar Heel!!! - GO NC!!), second I'm not in the National Guard, I'm active duty. Now the account, I served with an active duty battalion that was assigned 2 National Guard companies - one was from Kansas and one was from Texas. They were truck companies, and both saw heavy action. On a side note, I found both units to be extremely professional in their duties. Neither shirked from any mission assigned to them and had an amazing "Can Do" attitude. If I had any negative comments about the Guard units I have served with - they are minor. I found they had a bit of a height/weight and PT shortcoming, but they more than made up for that with their Mission First attitude. My BC had a board in his office/tent with a collection of all the Guard patches of units we had run into over there. I don't recall a single state missing from his board - we even had a couple territory patches (Guam and PR). So whoever posted that on a Yahoo Board is simply giving into conspiracy BS and once again, as they almost always seem to be - are yapping away and have NEVER spent a day. Isn't it curious how the folks who seem to to come up with this crap have a mysterious lack of service to go along with their tripe?
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No, it's not true.\nVoluntary signups for the armed services are way down.  Some officials have even been discussing reinstating the draft.  If there were plenty of recruits for the armed forces, there wouldn't be so many National Guard folks over in Iraq -- their job is supposed to be domestic defense, not war abroad.
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Trick question because if everything that he says is a lie  than intern the statement itself is not to be believed as the truth. Insinuating that he does tell the truth. It is a "catch 22".
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If it seems like he's making it up to you, then he probably is.  Here's a few questions to ask him if you're IM'ing him.  If he answers wrong or takes way to long, then he's full of it.\n\n-Ask what his MOS number is (four digits, first two are the field, last two are the specialty)\n-Ask where he went to MOS school (you can verify this info later)\n-Ask what he got on his last PFT (Physical fitness test), and when he took it.  If he says he took it recently while he was deployed, then he's probably bs'ing you.  Deployed Marines hardly ever take PFT's.\n-Ask what unit he's in, then find out later if they're really stationed there.\n\nOr you can find out his name and rank, tell me, and I'll tell you if he really is a Marine and where he is stationed if he is.\n\nAlso, just make sure that you ask these questions in  a "roundabout" way.  Don't sound like you're interrogating him!
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Having joined the Air Force (twice) I know first hand recruiters are not always the best source for this infomation.  I had a surgery on my face in 1990 and when I went to join the first time in 1992, my recruiter just threw up his hands when I was turned down.  Luckily, my doctor knew someone at the Surgeon General's office and I was able to get a waiver.  One thing I have learned in 12 years of military...just about EVERYTHING is waiverable.  First, find where it is written, that is not allowing your condition.  In that regulation, there should be a "waiver authority".  Most regulations are searchable on the internet.  Recruiters are good people, but most take the job to get out of a job they didn't like and/or get stationed somewhere they desire.  They are not looking out for your best interests no matter what they tell you.  I am not telling you the military is a bad choice.  The military has been very good to me, but the only person who is going to look out for you is YOU.
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No its not true because you  wont live long enough to become educated. But then again you ought to have realized this, but youre already lacking an education so why should you know what to do with anything? No wonder youre seeking out the military, its already chock full of people with no clue about anything why not include yourself in the sniped in the head club? Go ahead, join up and go off to BE ALL YOU CAN BE in a body bag for your parents to claim. Go be an ARMY OF ONE more dead idiot. Way to go. THe recruiters will tell you anything dude, theyre getting PAID to lie to you. DONT YOU GET IT? They GET MONEY for signing up SUCKERS like yourself. Please do us all a favor and list your complete name so that when you end up DEAD from being in a country that you have no business being in, that I can send a printout of this forum to your parents showing how you were told ahead of time, and ignored the reasoning of logic.
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Why was he willing to help get more soldiers in the guard. I would like to say that all soldiers are doing a job. They signed up for it. If he does not like the way they conduct business don't reenlist. I think he needs to get out and shut his mouth up. We has military family are proud of our soldiers. We support them no matter what. It is something we have no say where the go and what they do.
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People lie about military service more than you might guess, especially if it involves a dangerous situation. I was in the Navy for six years and did nothing especially astounding or heroic. I did learn enough about the military and particularly the Navy to be able to spot a liar. \n\nI can tell you about two guys that both claim to have been SEALS and are full of it. Usually these guys will say something like, "I was in a very secret group and there are no records". This is crapola. The Navy (and every branch) keeps meticulous records of your service time even if a particular person is involved in something secret. They may not say where a person was a at a particular time but your service IS recorded.\n\nI want to state again that I was just a regular sailor and no commando or "operator" but I have been among them. I've seen how they train and prepare and it's a crime that people want to "play army" and try to boost their reputation off of the sweat of these men.\n\nIf anyone starts in on their service ask them what their "M.O.S." was. (It means "military occupational specialty" or what they were trained to do). If they look at you blankly then they are full of it. It's one of the first terms you learn as it determines the course of your military career. There are NO secret MOS's. Your husband can probably tell you a lot more about his branch of service as he is probably not a Navy man.\n\nI agree that it is a disgrace. My best wishes go out to your family and your husband. Please give my personal thanks to your husband for serving our country. I'm too old now to return to active service but will have him in my prayers. A brotherhood of servicemen await his return. God speed.
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Kerry spoke the truth.\n\nKerry was implying that if you cant get a college degree, then your best bet is to join the military, but you will probably get stuck in Iraq.  Where's the falsehood in that?  Where is the insult?  I dont see it.  Kerry never said everyone in the military is dumb.  Most are there because they couldnt afford college.  But if you can afford college, you have to succeed there.  If you cant, guess what.. You may well end up in Iraq with the poor kids.\n\nIts the people who cannot disect his statement and see that its true who are the dumb ones.  I didnt think most military people are stupid, but Im starting to change my mind.  Very few of them seem to be able to understand Kerry's statement.
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Well I think if an institution of higher learning receives funding from the government, they are absolutely required to allow ROTC or military recruiters on to campus. The argument presented by FAIR was that the presence of ROTC and military recruiters violated their first amendment rights. It's a preposterous argument that is rooted in an antipathy towards the military but the problem is that the military did not create their policies that they had a problem with (like "dont ask, dont tell") congress did. \n\nStudents and faculty are allowed too demonstrate and protest military presence on campus if they want too (and, trust me, they do) but recruiters are allowed to be there as well. They are considered outsiders, no different from businessmen who come onto campus for hiring purposes at job fairs. Students are not obligated to join or participate. They are not obligated to follow the policies of the military. Those who do, volunteered knowing full well what they were signing up for. For example, I dont see anybody calling for companies that have third world sweat shops to be kicked out of job fairs. \n\nThe idea that you can kick out or ban an organization that has no effect on you simply because you don't like their policies is preposterous. Which is why the Supreme Court unanimously ruled 8-0 in favor of keeping ROTC and recruiters on campus.
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I don't keep numbers of this sort, but I do read the newspaper, daily.  Two days ago, the army indicated that it had surpassed it's last recruiting quota.  All of the other services have had no trouble meeting quota.  The army has always had the biggest challenge because of it's size,  I believe the army may have relaxed some of its criteria for recruitment.  This certainly would have helped it to achieve its numbers.  No, this isn't a guess, unless the newspapers are getting bad info.
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I hope that this isn't really all talk ..  like all thos e protests b4 we went to war lol ..\n\nanyway ...  BAD .. Level 4 soldier of fortune at your service !!!!\n\n\nDr BAd\nMercenary for hire ... (cheap seasonal rates)