is suicide forgiveable?
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Nope!!!! Nobody has a right to take a life...\nThat includes the person himself.
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no, suicide is a waste of a life.  life i precious; God gave it to us.  most people, when they try to commit suicide, their last thought is, "I dont want to die".  when you commit suicide, there's no turning back.  its just over.  think about how many people you coud affect if you dont commit suicide.  Turn to God, and he will help you through any situation that you are helpless in.  without God, we wouldnt have life.\n\nyesterday is history\ntomorrow is mystery\ntoday is a GIFT
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I have a hard time with your theory. I have experienced the suicide of 2 of my brothers. I am a Christian, and knowing and understanding that God allows our choices, but is very often saddened or angered by the choices that we make that hurt ourselves or others around us, I would say NO. God does not find it beneficial in any way imaginable, by someone taking their own life. The desolation that you feel when a loved one does this, almost completely destroys you! My mother DID become a Christian yrs later, since that's what you were implying in your question, but I feel she probably would have anyway, if the Lord was working in her heart. SHE was the one who found her 2nd son dead, btw.....
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Actually, you DO always die if you COMMIT suicide.  Otherwise it'd be 'attempted' suicide.  I guess the only crime is ATTEMPTED suicide.  If you actually commit it, I guess being dead is punishment enough, is it not?
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The Bible also speaks of forgiveness but also of justice. The perpetrators can be forgiven but they have to face justice which is the death penalty. They took life away from the innocent, what's gonna stop them from doing more harm? There are certain types of people who even though you love will stick to their own way which is maybe still the wrong way such as leading to believe that murder is actually a noble act. These types of people are very deceived by the dark side(Satan, is real. He's on the move ever since.)\nBut of course you ought to forgive them especially if you believe in God. He will avenge the deaths of those in the 9/11. \nIt is hard to tell those who had someone close to them die in that incident to forgive. But they ought to go on with their lives. 9/11 may have taken away something important and dear to them but it can never take away their choice to fight on, to be strong, to trust, and to live. As for the perpetrators everything they cherish will soon crumble down because what you reap you will sow.\nWe ought to remember what God's Word says,\n"Lord, You have heard the desire of the humble: You will prepare their heart; You will cause Your ear to hear, To do justice to the fatherless and the oppressed, That the man of the earth may oppress no more."Psalm 10:17-18
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i think you'll have to wait awhile...come to terms with what happened...you don't have 2 forgive someone right after they hurt you or a loved one deeply. i figure that as long as you're not out to kill them you're ok. remember God doesn't expect you to LOVE this person...he's probably angry at what they did too- and give it some time.
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I was taught to believe that this was a great sin, whether saved or unsaved. Thou shall not commit murder. Suicide is like murdering yourself. Whether a saved individual who commits suicide will go to hell, I do not know.\n\nI believe that desires of suicide are works of the devil, who comes to kill, steal and destroy. "The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, blessed be the name of the Lord!" (from the Book of Job). It is up to the Lord to call you Home.
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Suicides—A Resurrection?\n\nTHE tragic news of a suicide does not close a chapter in the lives of relatives and friends; it opens one—a chapter of mixed feelings of pity and anger, sorrow and guilt. And it raises the question: May we entertain any hope for our friend who took his or her life?\n\nAlthough self-inflicted death is never justified, never righteous, the apostle Paul did hold out a beautiful hope for even some unrighteous ones. As he told a Roman court of law: “I have hope toward God . . . that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.”—Acts 24:15. \nMany theologians have long dismissed any suggestion that the resurrection of the unrighteous might offer hope for those who commit suicide. Why?\n\nCenturies ago, churchmen introduced a non-Biblical concept: immortal souls that leave the body at death and go straight to heaven, purgatory, Limbo, or hell. That concept clashed with the Bible’s clear teaching of a future resurrection. As Baptist minister Charles Andrews asked: “If the soul is already blissfully in heaven (or is already justifiably roasting in hell), what need is there for anything further?” He added: “This inner contradiction has remained to plague Christians throughout the centuries.”\n\nOne result of such errant theology was that “since Augustine’s time [354-430 C.E.], the church has condemned suicide as a sin,” says Arthur Droge in the Bible Review, “a sin beyond redemption, just like apostasy and adultery.”\n\nJesus told a criminal sentenced to death: “You will be with me in Paradise.” The man was unrighteous—a lawbreaker rather than a distraught suicide victim—guilty by his own frank admission. (Luke 23:39-43) He had no hope of going to heaven to rule with Jesus. So the Paradise in which this thief could hope to come back to life would be the beautiful earth under the rule of Jehovah God’s Kingdom.—Matthew 6:9, 10; Revelation 21:1-4.\n\nFor what purpose will God awaken this criminal? So that He mercilessly can hold his past sins against him? Hardly, for Romans 6:7, 23 says: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin,” and “the wages sin pays is death.” Although his past sins will not be accounted to him, he will still need the ransom to lift him to perfection.\n\nOnly God can fully understand the role of mental sickness, extreme stress, even genetic defects, in a “suicidal crisis,” which, the National Observer noted, “is not a lifetime characteristic [but] often a matter only of minutes or of hours.”\nGranted, one who takes his own life deprives himself of the opportunity to repent of his self-murder. But who can say whether one driven to suicide might have had a change of heart had his fatal attempt failed? Some notorious murderers have, in fact, changed and earned God’s forgiveness during their lifetime.\nThus, Jehovah, having paid “a ransom in exchange for many,” His Son, is within his right to extend mercy, even to some self-murderers, by resurrecting them and giving them the precious opportunity to “repent and turn to God by doing works that befit repentance.”\n\nThe Scriptures encourage us to see ourselves, not as immortal souls, but as valuable creations of the God who loves us, who treasures our being alive, and who looks forward with joy to the time of the resurrection.\n\n4000 years had passed from Adam & Eve, Jesus said to a Religious Leader that no one had gone to Heaven, and millions of people had passed away in death. This is a quote from the King James Bible: \n\nJohn 3:13 " And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven," \nit seems to me, this would eliminate the "immortal soul" belief, not only that, if you go to Heaven or Hell when you die, you completely do away with the resurrection that the Bible speaks about, because the resurrection is suppose to take place after Jesus comes the second time, and that has not happened.
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Yes, I have. I was hospitalized for suicide ideation and was diagnosed with depression (sounds weird but I had no idea I was clinically depressed!). I started taking anti-depressants and seeing a therapist regularly. They both have helped a lot.\n\nSuicide is one of the most selfish things you can do. You have SO many people around you who love you and care about you; your death will cause them lots of pain and heartache. I know, because I had a really good friend commit suicide a couple years ago.\n\nI can't tell from your question whether or not this is something that you're thinking about; if you are, I would suggest that you get some professional help. Working out the sorts of issues that are causing you to think about suicide may seem overwhelming, but there are plenty of supports out there for you.
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Worst thing that you could do to your family??  Directly?  Indirectly?\n\nAnything can be forgiven if the one who is guilty of the transgression toward the family goes to each one of them, sincerely apologizes, and never repeats the transgression.\n\nUnfortunately, it will be up to the individual whether or not they are willing to forgive you.  Also, just because you're forgiven doesn't mean you will be allowed back into lives.  You can forgive someone; but you, very seldom, will allow them close enough to ever hurt you again. \n\nForgiveness from anyone is not a ticket to putting a relationship back where it was before the betrayal, and it's a very thin consolation for losing the trust of family. Sorry.
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Of course.  If you repented and tried to walk with Him.\n\nWe are grieved by those we love, and when they are sorrowful, we comfort them and restore our relationship.\n\nWe learn that from God.  He wants to be in a close relationship with us.  When we sin it grieves Him, but He still wants us to be in a close relationship with Him.  So much so that He sent His Son to redeem us and to be a mediator on our behalf.  A mediator is someone helps bring peace and resolution to two parties in disagreement.\n\nTrust Jesus with your heart and your life.  Trust that God wants to forgive you and restore you to a good relationship with Himself.
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no.   If someone does something that hurts very much, it is absolutely possible to NOT forget or forgive for the rest of your life.  I'm living proof.  I have not forgiven my parents for something they did, and I have not spoken to them for 8 years.  Also, I do not forgive any one who has hurt me over the years.  If what someone does , hurts so much that you can not forget it... then you can't forgive it.  It is their problem... not yours.  Go on with your life and forget about them.. Why have someone in your life that hurts you ?
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Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. You need psychological help now. It is not a shameful thing to seek help. In fact, it shows that you are smart enough to do something to help yourself. If you committed suicide, your family and friends would miss you terribly! Don't do this to yourself or to them.\n\nPS - I just read your other question about your sexual, physical and emotional abuse. If this is behind your problem, you should not let your abuser win. Don't pay attention to anyone who says suicide is the coward's way out. They probably never had to deal with depression or with your issues. Suicide may look like the best way out, but I believe you are too smart a person to kill yourself. I do think that there is some sense of self-worth in you... something that will keep you going.
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I was reading this book and it really made me think about my actions and the actions of those around me.  This guy had a near death experience and he talked about having his life review, during it he talked about experiencing his actions on those around him. He said that he felt what they felt because of his actions. With that said, I would rather not have to feel pain that I caused on another person even if I was justified. I think that in the end as long as I do the right thing everything will be as it should. I know how I have felt when others have wronged me, it hurts, sometimes physically and sometimes emotionally. I don't like it. I think that the wisest thing to do is turn it over to the Lord, he will be the perfect judge. It's not for us to do, especially with our limited knowledge.\n\nAlso I think that it just feels good to do that, I have had to find forgiveness with a few close friends who have hurt me badly. The great thing is that I sleep good at night. It's not good to carry that burden around, holding on to a grudge. Letting go of it gives you peace.
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One can forgive, but they cannot always forget. It seems like it may is time to move on if you have attempted to address the issue to no avail. \nThere is someone better out there that will treat you as you deserve to be treated.
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You can apologize for a bad joke, but you can NOT apologize for thousands of deaths.\n\nTake Care
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You know forgiveness is a difficult thing.  I think if you are feeling it, you should do it.  It will be a lot easier to move on.  And really, how long does a person need to be punished for something wrong they have done?  I am not spiritual at all or even religious.  But a lot of people believe we will answer to a greater power once we leave this earth.  If you believe that, then there is no good reason why you need to carry around animosity for your mom.  You are an adult now and if she doesn't feel sorry now, she never will.  But I am sure she feels guilty and that is a punishment she will live with until death and then she will deal with whatever, after.  I think it takes a big person to forgive someone of such a huge thing as a mom leaving her babies.  My dad left my mom before I was born and then claimed I wasn't his.  It was a huge court battle and it was finally discovered he is in fact my biological father.  At age 18 he decided he wanted me back in his life.  I couldn't do it.  I wasn't ready.  I am a mother now and I have forgiven him and moved on.  He is now dying of liver failure and wishes he had more time with me...I am his only daughter.  So, he is being punished.  But not by me...but by himself and knowing that he did wrong.  Good luck to you.  You will make the decision best for you.