Those people who say that Jesus was not a God nor a son of God have any logical points in their support ?
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That's a strange thing to ask.  I mean, believing in God, or Jesus, or anything like that isn't about logic, it's about faith, and if you're trying to reduce it to a question of proof, then it suggests to me that you don't understand a lot about your own beliefs.  \n\nIf you believe that Jesus was the Son of God, then it's because that belief resonates with you on some level.  Whether that's a deep spiritual resonance or just because it's comforting for you, that's not for me to say, but either way, it's presumably something your heart clings to tightly, and it's unlikely that any logical argument, on its own, is going to change that.  In that sense, the answer to your question appears to be no, because any evidence can be explained away or reinterpreted one way or another.\n\nPersonally, I don't believe that Jesus was the son of God, not in the way you seem to mean it, and I think Jesus himself would have been upset with the idea that he was.  That said, though, I know some very good people who are very serious about their belief that Jesus was the Son of God.  Some say that it's their faith that gives them strength to do what's right, and I sure can't prove them wrong--though I can say from experience that not all good people are Christians and not all Christians seem to be good people.  But for the ones I've met who are both--that is, Christian and good, or good people of any religion--it's not about proving that what you believe is right; it's about doing what's right because of what you believe, or in accordance with what you believe.  \n\nYou and I could argue all we want about whether Jesus was or was not the begotten son of God, or a child of God as we all are, or a son of God in the sense that it appears to have been meant by his contemporaries (ie, a wise teacher), but arguing the logic and the semantics won't bring us any closer to knowing God, or understanding God, or serving God.  \n\nI enjoy a good debate, and if you do to, then there's nothing wrong with that.  But if you want to prove the goodness of God, then do it by going out there and doing good on God's behalf, not by posting illogical questions on Yahoo!
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Jesus was not just a messenger.  More importantly he is the messiah, god in the flesh, and the perfect example of how we are to live.\nIn the OT it says that the messiah is God.  Only God can take away sin.  He was the ultimate scrifice.  There are sveral cults who say that Jesus is not God, they have been deceived.  \n\nMore :\n\n  In addition to Jesus’ specific claims about Himself (see Is Jesus God?), His disciples also acknowledged the deity of Christ. They claimed that Jesus had the right to forgive sins - something only God can do, as it is God who is offended by sin (Acts 5:31; Colossians 3:13; cf. Psalm 130:4; Jeremiah 31:34). In close connection with this last claim, Jesus is also said to be the one who will "judge the living and the dead” (2 Timothy 4:1). Thomas cried out to Jesus, "my Lord and my God!” (John 20:28). Paul calls Jesus “great God and Savior” (Titus 2:13), and points out that prior to His incarnation Jesus existed in the “form of God” (Philippians 2:5–8). The writer to the Hebrews says regarding Jesus that “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever” (Hebrews 1:8). John states that, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word [Jesus] was God” (John 1:1). Examples of Scriptures that teach the deity of Christ could be multiplied (see Revelation 1:17; 2:8; 22:13; 1 Corinthians 10:4; 1 Peter 2:6–8; cf. Psalm 18:2; 95:1; 1 Peter 5:4; Hebrews 13:20), but even one of these is enough to show that Christ was considered to be deity by His followers.\n\n \n\nJesus is also given titles that are unique to Yahweh (the formal name of God) in the Old Testament. The Old Testament title “redeemer” (Psalm 130:7; Hosea 13:14) is used of Jesus in the New Testament (Titus 2:13; Revelation 5:9). Jesus is called Immanuel ("God with us" in Matthew 1). In Zechariah 12:10, it is Yahweh who says, “They will look on me, the one they have pierced.” But the New Testament applies this to Jesus’ crucifixion (John 19:37; Revelation 1:7). If it is Yahweh who is pierced and looked upon, and Jesus was the one pierced and looked upon, then Jesus is Yahweh. Paul interprets Isaiah 45:22–23 as applying to Jesus in Philippians 2:10–11. Further, Jesus’ name is used alongside Yahweh’s in prayer “Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ” (Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 1:2). This would be blasphemy if Christ were not deity. The name of Jesus appears with Yahweh's in Jesus' commanded to baptize “in the name [singular] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19; see also 2 Corinthians 13:14. In Revelation John says all creation praised Christ (the Lamb) - thus Jesus is not part of creation (5:13).\n\n \n\nActions that can be accomplished only by God are credited to Jesus. Jesus not only raised the dead (John 5:21; 11:38–44), and forgave sins (Acts 5:31; 13:38), He created and sustains the universe (John 1:2; Colossians 1:16-17)! This point is made even more forceful when one considers that Yahweh said He was alone during creation (Isaiah 44:24). Further, Christ possesses attributes that only deity can have: eternality (John 8:58), omnipresence (Matthew 18:20, 28:20), omniscience (Matthew 16:21), omnipotence (John 11:38-44).\n\n \n\nNow, it is one thing to claim to be God or to fool someone into believing it is true, and something else entirely to prove it to be so. Christ offered as proof of His claim to deity many miracles and even rose from the dead. Just a few of Jesus' miracles include turning water to wine (John 2:7), walking on water (Matthew 14:25), multiplying physical objects (John 6:11), healing the blind (John 9:7), the lame (Mark 2:3), and the sick (Matthew 9:35; Mark 1:40–42), and even raising people from the dead (John 11:43–44; Luke 7:11–15; Mark 5:35). Moreover, Christ Himself rose from the dead. Far from the so-called dying and rising gods of pagan mythology, noth
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The answer is Jesus is NOT God.\nHe is God's spokesman.\nThat's why he is sometimes called The Word.\nJust like an ambassador represents his government in a far away place.\nHe was sent to Israel, therefore he hesitated to have dealings with anyone not an Israelite.
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Well, for belief that God has a son (or as to your belief that He does not have a son), it's best to back up that belief with authoritative religious texts. Christians believe Jesus is God's only Son, according to John 3:16 and many other passages, but for any assertion that God does not have a son, it might be good to cite Scriptures that support this belief.
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jehovah's witnesses and mormons do not believe in the trinity, i.e. that jesus is god, but they do believe that he is the son of god. that's as close as they get.
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Jesus was neither a Republican or a Democrat.
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Maybe you should listen to them, rather than make guesses about how to answer them.\n\nJesus was supposedly born to a virgin- don't you know that that cannot be true?  Jesus is supposed to return in the second coming, raise the dead, and take the faithful straight to heaven.  What person using their god-given brain can believe that fairytale?  The bible is filled with advice such as for men to abandon their families and follow Jesus (family values?!?), another place Jesus publically denies his own mother.  Nice guy.\n\nMaybe YOU should reconsider the brand of snake oil you are pushing.  Perhaps it is time for the TRUTH!
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You are welcome to believe what you like.\n\nBut do consider that it is probably a little more difficult, in general, for people to believe that a certain person is God than it is for them to believe that a certain person is homosexual.\n\nMoreover, Jesus didn't do any convincing. Jesus existed--and people came to understand that he was God. He never claimed he was God himself. So you would have to point to what he exactly said and did that was a persuasive tactic.
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There is plenty of historical evidence that there was a real man named Jesus that did and said the things that are recorded in the New Testament.  Some people choose to dismiss him as  a myth because it easier then to have to deal with who He was and what He taught.  Basically, you either believe He is who He claimed to be - The Son of God - or you don't.  And if you choose not to believe, you have to justify why you don't believe.  Embracing the "myth theory" is one way to justify ones unbelief.  But if you seriously study the evidence, I think you will see that it is a flimsy argument with no historical support.  Most of the people on here that claim Jesus is a myth have never examined the evidence one way or the other.  Most of them just heard someone else say it was so and they latched on to it as a way of dismissing the whole story.  At least in their own mind.
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Jesus Christ is the son of God.\nNo he is not a God, he is the SON of God.\nNo, his spirit assended into Heaven when resurrected to be with is father in Heaven.
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"}\ndid Jesus claim to be God and the son of God?\nyes \n\ndid he demand that he be believed \nyes\n\nNot only did he make that claim for himself but the father made it on his behalf!
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First, I don't think anybody can definitively "prove" Jesus' existence.  But, I do know that I admire the mythology of Jesus and his teachings.  I also admire other great humans from antiquity.  Whether you choose to believe in Jesus or not, don't disregard the wonderful parables and teachings of the man.  You can choose to learn from a variety of sources without having to be a Christian or Muslim or Atheist.  There is good knowledge out there.  Seek it.
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That's funny, I remember Jesus saying repeatedly that he was NOT the son of God. He said he was the Son of Man. He claimed God was his father, but not necessarily in the biological sense, and he didn't claim any special relationship.\n\nBut regardless, the bible is a collection of mythology. Believe it if it makes you happy, but don't pretend there's some kind of proof that you're right and everyone else is wrong. All your logic is circular - the Bible proves Christ's divinity, and we know the Bible is accurate because Christ said so, and he's divine.
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During his preaching, Jesus had never called himself as God or Son-God. Now, look upon those people who consider Jesus as God or Son-God. They are, baselessly, blaming even those people who were present at the spot and knew that Jesus was not God or son-god. In other words, the people with the belief that Jesus is God or Son-god; are far more enemies of Jesus who tried to crucify him.\n\n•The people who say that Jesus is God or Son-God or in his guise, the Lord descended upon earth because of God’s love for humanity. They are, baselessly, blaming Jesus and the Lord of Jesus, the both.\nAccording to Jesus, God, the Holy One; is the Saviour of the Whole mankind. God is capable (be God glorified as God is) to relive off every infliction. None of the human beings is saviour beside God. Jesus, himself is also, not a saviour at all. The people who have chosen him as their saviour__ they have denied the Holy One___ who alone is the saviour of Jesus and whole mankind and the act of choosing Jesus as saviour__ is equal to hate the Holy One___ as it is clearly written in the old Testament:-\n\n“I am the Lord your God. Worship no God but Me. Do not make for yourself images of anything in heavens or on earth or in the water under the earth. Do not bow down to any idol or worship it. Because I am the Lord your God and I tolerate no rivals. I bring punishment on those who hate me, on their descendants, down to third and fourth generation.”\n(Exodus 20:1-5)\n\nNow, ponder over the point that whosoever says that Jesus is God___ Holy Spirit is God___ Mary is God; has he not made an idol beside the One God? While nothing is there in the earth and heavens which could be considered in terms of the One God.\n\nBeware please! A father is a father__ a mother is a mother___ and a son is a son__ and they all are the creatures of God. They cannot be considered as God___ as god is their Creator__ and nothing is like the Lord.\n\nCreatures of God are God’s Creatures they can never be considered as God or as the parts of God. Same is the case of Jesus who is a creature and, as such, can not be considered as God or a part of the Creator or the son of Creator.\n\n•Jesus is not a Saviour. He is not capable, even, to save himself from his enemies. How he can be considered “All-Able” to save everyone on the earth. It is the Lord alone__ Who is the All-Able to save every creature of the universe including the mankind__ as the Lord is already saving__ each of them__ without any desolation and defect.\n\nJesus was born after Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, David, Solomon, Moses and the numerous other Prophets (peace & blessings of God be upon all of them). If he were the Son-God, then, all of the foregoing Prophets, must have been the believers of Trinity. But the case is not like that at all. None of them was the believer of Trinity, rather, none of them, had, even, heard about the name of Trinity, in their times. Hence, Trinity is nothing else but an invented and artificial concept which has no existence, even, during the time of Jesus. It is, therefore, a rootless concept from all accounts.\n\nPrior to Jesus, the Lord had created Eve, without mother__ and Adam, without mother and father, the both. Afterwards, the Lord created Jesus without father. So the creation of Jesus, without father, is the third instance of the Lord’s all-encompassing creativity___ which is free from all the channels or systems of the birth. Instead, all the channels or systems of the birth are subservient to the all-encompassing and unique creativity of the Lord.\nThe Lord is, therefore, Holy and the Lord must be believed in, as Holy. To ascribe a son unto the Lord__ is a direct assault on the Lord’s Holiness__ which is an unpardonable crime.\n\nsince Adam to Noah__ Noah to Abraham__ Abraham to David, David to Moses__ Moses to Jesus and Jesus to Muhammad (peace & blessings of God be upon all of them) all the Prophets were slaves or servants of the Lord. An
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Anyone who denies that Jesus is the Son of God is anti-Christ.\n\nThis I believe; http://homelessheart.com/testimony.htm
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Jesus is NOT God.\n\nJesus proclaimed to be The Son of God.\nJesus is The King of Kings. Lord of Lords.\nJesus Christ is the only way to The Father Jehova.\nJesus Christ is the 2nd in The trinty, not the First.\nThe Holy spirit is the 3rd in the Trinity, not the 2nd.\n\nGod The Father..Jesus The Son. The Holy Spirit in the Trinity, just in that order.\n\nIf Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, He would be called "God in the flesh". Jesus is called"The Son of God"., for a reason. Because He is.\n\nJehovah God said what?  I will have NO other God's before me.\nDon't put Jesus Christ before Jehovah God.\n\nWe are Christians and ONE in Christ through the Blood. \n\nJehovah, Jesus, The Holy Spirit are ONE through the power of God.\n\nWe are Christians _Christ like.\nWe are not Jehovians, Jehova-likes.\nIf we were Jehovah like, we would be "equals to God.\n\nWe are God's children, not God's equals.
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Muslims (and Islam) say Jesus was a prophet but they reject all His teachings ....that is hypocrisy.\n\nThey reject Christ's divinity;\nthey reject his claim to be the Son of God;\nthey reject his death on the cross...\nthey reject His ressurrection..\nThey reject Jesus is the Christ/ Messiah...\nNeed I say more...?\n\nDon't be deceived. The Islamic god is totally different than the God of Jesus Christ .\n\n"Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ?  He is anti-Christ, that denies the Father and the Son. He that denies the Son, the same has not the Father." (I John 2:22)