why do people that like the color black always seem to be punk or gothic?
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You do realize that most of the clergy wears black, don't you?  Maybe those who you perceive as goth or punk are just very pious.  I don't think that's the reason, but just something to think about.\n\nWearing certain clothes or being punk or gothic does not say anything about your morality or religious beliefs.  Many goths and punks are devout Christians, Jews, ect.  Don't judge a book by it's cover, and don't judge lest ye be judged.
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Why not?  Goths come in all colors.
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The red one as black is associated with sadness/doom & gloom. Someone wore all black to my best friend's wedding last year and she was quite offended by it!
726509
I see your view! But it is mighty funny how we see every other race trying to be like us. It seems as if almost everybody wants to be black so bad but yet they put us down. But I know why it's because we are unique we have our own style that some will never understand. Don't trip off of what others think about us just be proud that we have so many haters. We must keep on doing things to make them hate on us and continue to move on. But I also see the points of others some black people give off that vibe and make that reputation for us. But I don't because I know that I am not the stereotypical black person I am aobve others expectations of  what black people are.
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No way, are you kidding me?\n\nYou're just expressing yourself... if anything you may be a little rebellious. That's completley normal and understandable.\n\nBesides... what you described is not what a "Goth" person is.\n\nAnd a person cannot be "Gothic". They can be a "Goth". The term "Gothic" refers to a form of architecture... you know, a lot of churches are "Gothic"-looking.\n\nDon't change, express yourself the way that you want.
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Goths generally like certain kinds of music, but that doesn't mean they hate everything else. I like some kinds of R&B, hip=hop and rap. You've most likely only been exposed to the fakey stuff on the radio. That's not real rap or hip-hop. And it probably isn't the music you hate, it's the ideas; misogyny, violence, materialism, the glorification of poverty and ignorance. Take away these unflattering items and all you have left is a style of singing and musical beats that may or may not be to your liking. Hope that cleared things up! ;)
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not just people that are witches gothic or punk have open minds.what kind of friends is it that you want? sounds to me you want to go on the dark side.you must be depressed.you can find some good people in chat rooms just becareful. yes im open minded to greeneyes634970@yahoo.com
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Gothic is just a label.  There are nice goths and mean ones, just like every other group.  Most of the ones I know are nice.\n\nYes, you can be gothic an believe in God.  I know a couple of Christian goths, including a very devout Catholic.
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Because to most people punk is a fashion.
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I'm not, (only 24) but my husband and most of my friends are.  Some wear band t-shirts and black jeans, some wear nice tailored clothing in black, and some just go all out and wear uber goth clothes.  For some reason, people don't mind as much when you're an older goth, they just think you're dressed up for something or have a job that requires that outfit.  For the goths that I know who don't appear to be goths at their work (like a high school teacher I know) they're just themselves at all times, and don't care if their clothes aren't "goth enough."  Most older goths have normal lives, many are married, most have regular jobs, but most also enjoy expressing themselves through various art forms such as sculpture, poetry, and painting.
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I lived in France for a couple of years and they called themselves "noir" which means black or French.  There was not a combination of the two.  The only black people I came across that called themselves something else then "noir" where the ones that did not grow up in France.  \n\nAnd for extra info, I was around quite a few black people since I was invovled in church and my church was primarily black people.
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Well, there is a very good historical answer above, but to me being goth is the embrace and beauty of the darker side of things, life and human emotion...make no mistake...it is not evil things. Embracing being sad as much as being happy, for it is also a human emotion. \n\nPeople of course will always take it too far.....to those I would remind them that life will suck if you pretend (or allow yourself) to be angry or sad all the time...plus other people won't really wanna be around you. \n\nI, as a younger me, was all out gothic....clothes, makeup, friends, music, etc...now I don't look like that, I will go to a bar even if it doesn't feel like a cave or dungeon, have hip hop and country friends, dress to suit my profession, listen to all types of music, but you know what...most people can still tell that I have gothy tendancies.\n\nAnd yah..I would marry the real life version of that character from Corpse Bride.
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piercing your tongue is not a "gpth" or "punk" thing to do, just to clear things up... i've seen many people who look neither goth nor punk with tongue rings and other such piercings...\n\ngoth and punk are both subcultures derived from different types of music that started back in the seventies and eighties.  i don't claim to know much about goth rock and the whole goth scene, because that's definitely not my thing, and saying that they're all depressed and only wear black would be completely stereotyping them.  i've known a few goth kids and have seen a bunch, and i know for a fact that a lot of them like to write poetry and are into the whole gothic thing (vampires, fantasy, whatever).  also, goth kids can wear typically all black or all white, but then again there are those who go against the grain and wear whatever the heck they want...\n\npunk is much more my thing (i really could go on about it all day).  it too is derived from music and then became a subculture.  it's all about the music (for me at least) - going to shows, playing in shows, whatever...  some people dress punk but aren't and some people are punk but dress however they want (meaning no hair-dyeing, bondage straps, chokers and whatever other stereotypes there are out there).  so, yeah, there is a HUGE difference between goth and punk, but wither way that shouldn't have any affect on getting your tongue pierced or not (even hypothetically)...
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Ok well yoo know how people label other people who wear black "goths"? .. yeah well.. \nWell the label "emo" is like ummmm... its hard to explain. xD\nBut basically the typical "emo" wears tight clothes, depressed, listen to emo music, wears kinda punky clothes and ummm has an emo fringe\n.. It's all just stereotypical crap really
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some white metal fans are racist, especially within the genres of death and black metal. Death metal has some bands with black members and i am all for it, the world needs more color, check out Suffocation!!!! But sadly in black metal most of the fans are racist white people. The principle ideas of the genre are white power, satinism, and forest life, so obviously the person who chuckled at you was either into death or black metal, or just a racist cracker. \n\nI think the main reason people don't like it though is because so many metal bands are all white, so it's just a little unusual that's all, but in my opinion it's a good type of unusual.\n\nKeep it up man, there needs to be more colored people in the metal scene ( he he they are usually cooler than us white people anyway, lol)
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what kind of gothic are you and why do you think you are different from others
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My friends are Goth (Japanese-inspired L0lita-goths), and imagine - Asian goths, how much more weird it would be for Asians to be goths? :D\n\nGoth culture includes the following: \n\n*unique music, art, and literature \n*black clothing, light makeup, and unusual hairstyles (I'm sure you've seen some of this, and you know the basics) \n*Fascination with medieval, Victorian and Edwardian history \n*Goths tend to be non-violent, pacifistic, passive, and tolerant. Many in the media have mistakenly associated Goth with extreme violence and hatred of minorities, white supremacy, etc. \n*Followers seem sullen and withdrawn, when in public; they are "happy and carefree in the company of [other] Goths." \n*"A lot of people turn to the Gothic subculture after having a hard time in school, feeling alienated, and looking for a way to express themselves that mirrors those feelings. Others find the scene through literature, still others want to be shocking, and some people just find black clothing slimming." 1 \n*Goth music often deals with thought-provoking topics, concentrating on societal evils, like racism, war, hatred of groups, etc. They tend to concentrate on the very "nasty, unhappy" topics that "North American culture" wants to "ignore and forget." \n*A fascination with death. They try "to find a different way of thinking about life, like trying to find beauty in life, pain and death. It's all a quest for immortality." 2 \n*Some Goths enjoy playing role playing games. However, RPGs are not an integral component of Goth culture. It is just that those intellectual and creative challenges that draw them to the Goth scene make them more likely to enjoy RPGs as well. \n\n\nGeez, that sounds like me. But I don't dress Goth. My parents would completely freak out! It's ok to have an inner goth though. ;)\n\nYou can start by wearing a wig. Or you can dye your hair temporarily to see how it's going to work.\n\nShort hair? No problem, throw on one of those frilly bonnets, wear the whole goth-dressing and fishnet hose with boots.\nDon't forget the pale make up (so cute!) and the deep dark eyes. It helps if you've got an obsession for vampires (many goths do! I love em', but not enough to go all goth because of vampires...however tempting ;P).\nAlso, accessorize, accessorize, accessorize! Spikes collars, spikes, piercings..!