Why Should Israel honor any old agreements with the Palestinians now?
96804
elven rangers: could you please list any of these treaties you claim Israel broke? The UN passed a vote in 1947 for the creation of the Jewish State of Israel.  The Arab nations that surround Israel refused to accept the UN borders, and Israel agreed to accept the UN borders.  The Arabs then started fighting the newborn Israel, and Israel shockingly won.  \nWho's breaking agreements here?\nTHis was the beginning of a pattern...
1129868
That's a great question. If somebody knows that, they should be \nheads of state. \n\nAbout the Palestinian business: \nThe solution that is mostly accepted by both sides (but there is still a lot of disagreement on that) is the formation of a Palestinian state (which already happened, basically) alongside Israel. \nThis means that there should be a border between the states that can be guarded against terrorist intrusions, which makes a lot of Israelis happy. It also means that Palestinians get to decide their own fate, which should make them happy too. In reality, we still have a long way to go before anybody's satisfied with this. \n\n\nAbout Iran:\nBasically, Iran will have to recognize the state of Israel and stop supporting anti-Israeli terrorist groups. \n\nAs it is now, the Iranian president keeps telling the world that Jews should go back to Europe. Also, Iran has been supporting anti-Israeli terrorist groups(and Hezbollah) and developing medium range attack capabilities that can reach Israel. All that will have to stop before there are any talks between the nations.\n\nIdeologically Israel doesn't have much of a problem with Iran as a state, except that now Iran is the main strategic threat, as it's developing nuclear capabilities. Nobody on the Iranian side is willing to give up the nuclear program, one possible solution would be Israeli intervention, like the bombing of the Iraqi reactor, only this time it's much more difficult to do.\n\nAbout Asia:\nI guess you mean more about China. These days China depends more on oil from the Arab nations, so offically it should take the Arab side in every dispute. However, they also rely a lot on Israel for help in technology, agriculture etc. and there is a lot of respect for the "jewish mind" in China, so they can serve as mediators accepted by both sides. The Chinese are not easily deterred by the Arab oil embargos, for some reason, and makes them very useful in helping Israel in negotiations and "behind the scenes"
702431
The UN said it was theirs.  If the Palestinians had chosen peace in 1948, they would have a country too.  But they chose to fight, got whipped, and lost whatever rights they had to Israel by right of conquest by a defender.  Suck it up and go live in Jordan.  Or Lebanon.  Or Syria.  Or Egypt.  \n\nIf they will have you.  Otherwise, tough ****
731824
Because when Israel was created by the British pull out somewhere after ww2. The land prior to that was known as Palestine the land was annexed and given to the Jews and renamed Israel.. The Palestinians still consider it their land  so they created the PLO to try and take it back .\n\n      I am a neutral person and I know depending on who you ask the other side is responsible. I believe there is a great deal of fault on both sides of the conflict.\n\n     I did a UN tour in Israel and am in no way an expert but I am  neutral .I can say that neither side is Innocent..\n \n     I sent you a site to at least show the chain of events leading up to today.It covers this century.. I hope it helps. The real conflict has been going on since biblical times\n\nhttp://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
635365
The West Bank and Gaza will be a seperate country called Palestine. That is good enough.\n\nIsrael has been under attack since their first day in existance as a country. They have defended themselves amd grown into a successful country while living in a hostile country. Israel is trying to make peace and is willing to give up a lot in return. Look up their past peace accords. They don't want war. They just want to live peacefully without fear of being attacked.
503227
Palestine is the one who signs the peace treaty then fires a crappy rocket into Israel because you cant police Palestine. then Israel comes with their high tech war jets and destroys you, i think that's why you re upset because you cant win against Israel and resort to cheap gorilla tactics against citizens
614767
because it would make israel look like the aggressor...its better to be perceived as the victim, you can get away with more and have a better chance to gain international support for any retaliations.
761960
I believe it belongs to both Israel and Palestine. Palestinians rejected the partition plan of 1949 so they ended up without a country which I'm sure they regretted all these years. It's kind of like having two nations living on the same space. It's kind of like Native Americans and White people in America only the Native Americans got a lot worst deal. But now there is a Palestine and an Israel and both parties should respect each other and accept the fact that other isn't going away and deal with it.
918108
They would like to see Israel end.
849212
Before Bush took over the Israeli/Palestinian Peace process was going nowhere.  In 1998,After The Oslo Accords in which Israel gave up 98% of what the PLO and other Palestinian groups wanted. Yasir Arafat, After having won the Nobel Peace Prize. Rejected all that Israel had done, and restarted the INTIFADA.\nTrying to force more concessions from the Israeli government, Hamas set off a series of Homicide Bombings, and in response, Israel moved troops into the West Bank and laid siege to the Palestinian Authority Headquarters.  The US, under the leadership of G.W. Bush,  started the Process all over again with the Roadmap for Peace. We didn't disengage.  We moved forward.  The Palestinians Decided that they wanted to continue the war, they lack the will for Peace.  As apparent during the latest escalations by Hezbollah and Hamas.\n\nEDIT: Oh and the other 2%?  Why that was the death of every last Jew Desecrating the land of Israel.
134703
I wont answer ur question bcs\n\ni would give exemple here :\n\nif one make an Cake ... and onther one came and attack him and took it from him bcs he have more power ...and after days for some REASONS the 2 says ..ok let set and talk ...and the real owner of the cake said ,even all the cake its for me ...but i let u have it but i would have piece from my cake ... and u can keep the rest of it ... but the onther one said OK i will give u piece of ur cake ...but u must do thats and thats and thats!!! \n\nSo thats what is happning here today the Palestinians even b4 1948 they were have all the land and the Israelian occupied it....and now palestinians wanted just littel part of their own land and not all of it ...\n\nAnd now u asking ...do they deserve to be independent and have thier own state!!!!\n\ni will let you and whom reading this question to answer it
720324
I think you mean in the post World War II. The Israelis didn't go back to palestine, they just went there. You see, what happened was that thousands of years ago Jews lived there (that weren't even related to the same Israelis we're talking about). Therefore, because the whole world felt sorry for the Jews because of the Holocaust they forced the Palestinians to pay for what the Europeans have done (disgracing against the Jews). So to answer your question, they went to Palestine because the Europeans didn't want to deal with them so they forced the Palestinians to accept them. The palestinians were pretty pissed off (as they should have been) but they couldn't do anything about it because the British and everyone else didn't let them.
1007540
No.\n\nIf you have some time, here's an article (scroll down a bit) that explains the changing history of Iran and Israel--who used to be allies.\n\nhttp://www.strategypage.com/messageboards/messages/34-1324.asp
768627
There is no ethical reason for Israel to have their own state in the Middle East. Why should they have been allowed to just come in and take land away from the Palestinian people? If every race of people who have lost land in historical wars were allowed to just come back, then California does belong to Mexico; the American Indians own The U.S.; Northern France belongs to England; Greece owns Cyprus, southern Italy, and Bosnia... The difference with this situation is there was no war for land to be won. The Zionists just came in, with some minor support from Europe, and took the land. If the Ottoman Empire had chosen to be against Germany in World War I, Palestine would never have come under British control, and the Zionists could have never pressured Parliament to encourage a Jewish migration. Once the Holocaust happened during World War II, a complete and udder disgrace for all humankind, the Zionists had the upper hand, and with Europe domination in the Middle East, they had no problem setting up Israel as a State. Things could have been alright, but some of Israel's leaders wanted to create an Israeli State that controlled lands owned by Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and of course, Palestine. If they had just stayed within their borders, everything would be a lot less violent. Bottom line is, the land belonged to Palestine before Europe gave it to the Israelis.
202546
I think they have given enough.  It's like the story, "If you give a mouse a cookie" - no matter what they give up, the Palestinians ask for more.  When Barak and Arafat met, Barak offered everything except for Jerusalem as the capital, and Arafat refused.  There is no negotiation in that.  And now that Hamas is in charge, which refuses to denounce violence and still states that Israel should be destroyed, the situation isn't getting much better.\nIsrael gave up Gaza, let's see the Palestinians do something now to forward the peace process, then Israel can look to give up the West Bank settlements (as the leading Prime Minister candidate is talking about).
967955
Yes.  They already do.  In 1949, the Arab population of Israel was about 160,000. Today, it is over 1.2 million.  Most of the growth in Arab population is due to migration. Hundreds of thousands of Arabs, even today, are choosing to live in Israel.  Why?  Because Arabs, including Palestinians, are much freer in Israel than they are in their native Arab police states.  There is simply a better life for them in Israel.  They vote, they enjoy freedom of religion, freedom of speech, women's equal rights, and a free press.  None of the Arab nations offer anything close to that level of freedom, not even to the most devout Muslim Arab.  Given this history, we have reason to believe that any Arab, including any Palestinian, who renounces violence would enjoy the same rights in Israel.
634444
no, i'm hopeful, but it seems so unlikely...and not either side is 100% innocent...but seems that israel is intentionally setting goals and demands for the palestinians to meet in order for hopes of peace that they know they can't do, or make it impossible for them to achieve.  ruining their land, burning farms, bulldozing, shooting people in the streets is not way to allow that area to stabilize and police itself.  several years ago israel kept saying, like they are now, that they need to get police out and stop the militants, but with the occupation, they would shoot at anybody even the police, making it impossible to their job..so its very much like palestine gets set up to fail, add to that all the frustration and hate coming from the palestinians and its a candle and powder keg.