870 vs. 850 ? I am confused. I want it for my wife's bday in a few days. Please suggest which one is better. I know the difference in specs, but 870 has a lot less reviews since it came out recently. 870 vs. 850 ? I am confused. I want it for my wife's bday in a few days. Please suggest which one is better. I know the difference in specs, but 870 has a lot less reviews since it came out... » Read More 870 vs. 850 ? I am confused. I want it for my wife's bday in a few days. Please suggest which one is better. I know the difference in specs, but 870 has a lot less reviews since it came out recently. « Show Less
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It depends on whether you want the extra range at the wide-angle end and whether you want an optical viewfinder. The reviews tend to rate the picture quality from the two cameras highly.dpreview has reviewed the 870. He likes it a lot better than the 800, which has the same wide-angle lens (at least the same range) as the 870. Perhaps he had an inferior sample, but the 800 produced
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I've also heard that the 870 has better picture stablization. I'm disappointed that the comparison chart on Canon.com does not identify the differences very well. I'm struggling with the same question between the 2 cameras.
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I've also heard that the 870 has better picture stablization. I'm a bit disappointed that the comparison chart on canon.com does not adequately identify the differences in these models. I'm also struggling with which camera to buy.
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The main difference is the 870 uses a wide screen lens, whereas the 850 is the more standard lens. Also, the 870 has a 3" LCD, with no optical viewfinder, and the 850 has a 2.5" LCD, with an optical viewfinder. For me, I prefer the 850 mostly because the viewfinder can be essential in low light and very bright conditions (low light = can't seen subject on LCD, sunny = too much glare on LCD).
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Also, the SD870 sacrifices a bit at the telephoto end to get a bit more wide-angle... You might also consider the A720IS in your decision, as it can run off of AA batts.
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Don't forget about the layout of the controls and how that affects thumb placement for one hand shooting. I have handled both and the 870 was very frustrating to figure out where to place my thumb without blocking the corner of the screen or bumping into the touch sensitive wheel. This frustration factor alone is driving me away from the 870.
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See side by side review - http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras;=oly_stylus820%2Ccanon_sd870is%2Ccanon_sd850is&sh;ow=all ..ultimately I think the 850 / 870 are almost identical, the biggest difference is the weight, 30 g lighter (870) and much bigger LCD which is cooler. Pricewise is a big difference - almost $100 drift.
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I have the same question. I really like the SD870 (the 3 inch LCD and wide angle) but have been seeing reviews talking about edge to edge sharpness being a lot better on the SD850 than on the SD870. I love the 3 inch but picture quality takes precedence so I'm wondering if this is true... If true I don't want to spend $70 more to get an inferior picture quality camera.... SD870 owners please respond.and I know the specs are near identical and have seen the side by side review.. interested in knowing why reviewers say the SD870 has worse picture quality.. you see the same thing about the SD800 on dpreview... Is it something to do with the wide angle lens? I have the same question. I really like the SD870 (the 3 inch LCD and wide angle) but have been seeing reviews talking about edge to edge sharpness being a lot better on the SD850 than on the SD870. I love the 3 inch but picture quality takes precedence so I'm wondering if this is true... If true I don't want to spend $70 more to get an inferior picture quality camera.... SD870 owners please respond.and I know the specs are near identical and have seen the side by side review.. interested in knowing why reviewers say the SD870 has worse picture quality.. you see the same thing... » Read More I have the same question. I really like the SD870 (the 3 inch LCD and wide angle) but have been seeing reviews talking about edge to edge sharpness being a lot better on the SD850 than on the SD870. I love the 3 inch but picture quality takes precedence so I'm wondering if this is true... If true I don't want to spend $70 more to get an inferior picture quality camera.... SD870 owners please respond.and I know the specs are near identical and have seen the side by side review.. interested in knowing why reviewers say the SD870 has worse picture quality.. you see the same thing about the SD800 on dpreview... Is it something to do with the wide angle lens? « Show Less
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Go blindly for 780ti if you have PCIe 3 type motherboard. If you got v2, the 780 still beats the two 560s in regards to resolution and memory bandwidth. However thr 560s would be "faster" if ypu do 3D modeling and stuff. But if you talk gaming wise, go 780ti and later consider upgrading your mobo to PCIe v3.
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I refuse to make the purchase until prices drop. The LN55A950 is out as well as the LN52B750. Plus, it appears that the only real difference b/w the A750 and the 850 is that the 850 is slimmer.I will wait until Memorial Day and see if the prices drop by then...
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I was looking at them both and decided on the 850 some of the new features won out and it still does well with out the wide lens because it lets you combined images right in the camera to give the same effect. Also the 850 was on sale at bestbuy.com today for 248. Also battery life is better with the 850.
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I'm going for the 410 because of the battery life. I can't figure out why they wouldgo to a smaller battery when the primary upgrade is the n455 processor so thatit works with DDR3 ram. I want to be free of power cords for extended periods oftime with a netbook so that's why I'm getting the 410!
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Unless you pick it out at a retail store such as the Microsoft Store or Best Buy, you cannot be guaranteed the new CPU. However, in reality, there is no perceptible difference between the CPUs except on some arcane benchmarks. Real world use will show no difference. But I respect your desire for the "latest and greatest" and applaud you for asking this intelligent question.
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I have to replace my 870IS Elph unfortunately and there are so many other models...which one should I replace it with. I was going to buy the same one BUT the price is MORE than I paid for it when it first hit the market. Any help is appreciated! You may email me at educatorsusan@aol.comHugs,Susan
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Hey there!!! good question. The x series have a slightly better timing. If you look at the normal XL($77.99) the timing stats read 9-9-9-24 and then if you look at the RL($89.99) the timing reads 9-9-9-24-2N. Now this may seem like a small difference but the main issue is with speed. 2N just means its a little faster and a little more stable, this is quite minuscule. Now I purchased the XL($77.99) for a gaming rig I was building at the time and I can tell you first hand that the RAM is flawless. I never had any issues with Windows 8 or Windows 7 and on top of that I ran the RAM overclocked 24/7 for about 4 months straight playing various games with heavy graphical mod enhancements such as CoD Ghosts and GTA: IV. If you want to get the best of the best go for the RL($89.99), but if you want to save a little cash I promise you there's very little difference, I actually doubt one would be able to tell the difference.
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I don't believe there are any differences besides the clock speed. Everything seems identical (same chipset, RAM size/speed, disk model, wireless model, etc) and the only difference the i7-4510u has is an increased clock multiplier. I can say that 1.8 GHz base clock has proven more than enough for anything I need from this computer (read: educational Solidworks, light games/transcoding, productivity, 50+ tabs), and combined with the ssd and ample RAM, I doubt the difference would be significant unless you had heavy single-threaded workloads. It seems that this model has been marked down more because people rarely look at the clock speeds, and this is the cheapest i7 model (also the cheapest with 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD, my constraints); the market for the other one would be more professional.
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I am in the same boat. I found that the 1200 is the "newest" model of it... And don't like it. The 1400 looks slick, but doesn't have too good of reviews. Did you find anything since then? I see you posted in Jan. :)
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I tried the HS 20 not once, but twice -- because I thought the first had to be a bad copy. It wasn't. Both provided a nightmarish experience, leaving me with the feeling that anything would be better than the HS20. In that context, I'd opt for the 7000. But in the broader, more realistic context of the year 2014, you should rule out both the 10-year-old 7000 AND the HS20. Immediately, and irreversibly. Even if they cost you nothing, you'd still be wasting time, energy, and precious moments.
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Better then a 780, worse then a 780 ti so i would have to say its the same as the classified, just go with what is better price.
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Anyone have ideas? I'm looking at either the newer 810 or last year's 1000 as well. Specs looks similar. Thanks.
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I'm going for the 410 because of the battery life. I can't figure out why they would go to a smaller battery when the primary upgrade is the n455 processor so that it works with DDR3 ram. I want to be free of power cords for extended periods of time with a netbook so that's why I'm getting the 410!
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I'm looking to buy one. Such a good question but no one seems to know the answer. :(update: I think they are the same except one is more cheaply built. But which one?? Who knows...could be the higher priced one!
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First off, the 4960x came out in September 2013, and the 3970x was released in Nov 2012! They are both unlocked, so on that level they are the same. The 4960x is a 3.6Ghz (Turbo 4GHz), the 3970x is a 3.5Ghz (turbo 4GHz), so the 4960x is a LITTLE faster Ghz wise on standard setting, not turbo mode. The 3970x can be overclocked a little more than 4960x. 4960x Overclock Speed (4.75GHz) vs. 3970x Overclock Speed (4.99GHz). HOWEVER, The 4960x single core & multi core performance is better than the 3970x. The 4960x uses slightly less power (105.63w) vs the 3970x (121.88w). When all is said and done, the 4960x is slightly better than the 3960x. IF you have the money, I'd go with the 4960x as it is slightly better on MOST benchmarking programs. As you can see they are VERY, VERY SIMILAR. The 4960x is better, but only slightly! I know its a lot of money, but I'd go with the 4960x if you have the money to spend... If not, then I'd stick with the 3970x! I hope this is useful and helps! Thanks, Andrew PS. The first time I answered the question I thought you said 1960x, so I had to redo the answer - sorry about that. Hope that didn't create a problem for you. If you have any other questions, you are more than welcome to go to my website and ask me a question there: cuttingedgellc dot biz. Go to the contact portion of the site and I'm happy to give you the tech spec's sheet that I have on those 2 proc's and a lot more info if needed! Again, sorry for the trouble!
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As you can see from the description of the CPU the AO722-Bz197 has twice the cache (1MB x 2 L2) than the AO722-BZ454 (1MB L2).This means that the BZ197 will be somewhat faster than the other model.As far as I can see this is the only difference.