Is there any difference between SANYO's eneloop XX and Panasonic's eneloop pro? Can I use old SANYO's charger to Panasonic's batteries?
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Besides the change to the name (Panasonic bought Sanyo) and changed the name from XX to Pro as well as the packaging, the only real change is to the number of charge cycles the batteries are rated for (up to 500) and the milliamp (2550 versus 2500 - a bit longer run time between charges). Yes, you can still charge these batteries with your charger or any fast NiMH charger. Tammie Thomas Distributing
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Besides the change to the name (Panasonic bought Sanyo) and changed the name from XX to Pro as well as the packaging, the only real change is to the number of charge cycles the batteries are rated for (up to 500) and the milliamp (2550 versus 2500 - a bit longer run time between charges). Yes, you can still charge these batteries with your charger or any fast NiMH charger.TammieThomas Distributing
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More or less the Pro is a generational advancement over the XX. The Pro has a slightly higher capacity, a slightly slower rate of self discharge, slightly more consistent output, and a wider temp range. A slightly longer service life is also likely. With that said, the difference between the two are pretty minor. Like with previous generations, a good NiMH charger will charge all NiMH generations, and so chargers made while the XX was in production will work fine with the Pro. Like the XX, the Pros work great in high-drain devices, but provide poor performance with lower drain devices due to a much higher rate of self-discharge when compared to the standard eneloop 2100. More or less the Pro is a generational advancement over the XX. The Pro has a slightly higher capacity, a slightly slower rate of self discharge, slightly more consistent output, and a wider temp range. A slightly longer service life is also likely. With that said, the difference between the two are pretty minor. Like with previous generations, a good NiMH charger will charge all NiMH generations, and so chargers made while the XX was in production will work fine with the Pro. Like the XX, the Pros work great in high-drain devices, but provide poor performance with lower drain devices due... » Read More More or less the Pro is a generational advancement over the XX. The Pro has a slightly higher capacity, a slightly slower rate of self discharge, slightly more consistent output, and a wider temp range. A slightly longer service life is also likely. With that said, the difference between the two are pretty minor. Like with previous generations, a good NiMH charger will charge all NiMH generations, and so chargers made while the XX was in production will work fine with the Pro. Like the XX, the Pros work great in high-drain devices, but provide poor performance with lower drain devices due to a much higher rate of self-discharge when compared to the standard eneloop 2100. « Show Less
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Hello Travis, yes you "can" charge your Eneloop on any nickle metal halide (NIMH) charger, including the Energizer one, but be aware that the Warranty on the Eneloop is only valid if charged with an Eneloop/Sanyo charger. For $20, you can buy the basic Sanyo/Eneloop charger that charges only in pairs, for less than $30 you can buy the Eneloop charger that charges 4 batteries individually( and also has two bays that will "quick charge " in 1 hour). Since the 3rd generation Eneloops can be charged 1800 times, I bought the best Eneloop charger and love it. Right now Costco has a $20 package with 12 batteries, the basic eneloop charger and a few spacers to boot. My answer comes to you after I reviewed the "Eneloop" frequently asked questions website. Hope this helps.
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According to Sanyo eneloop web site: "Eneloop batteries are not limited to Eneloop chargers or any special proprietory charging technology and can be charged using other quality non-Eneloop Nickel Metal Hydride (NiMH) battery chargers." As long as you have a good quality "smart" charger (meaning that it charges each cell individually and stops whenever each cell is full), you can charge the eneloop cells with it. Personally, I would avoid those 15-minute Super-Fast chargers.
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I have an old VTech model ev2653.The original batteries supplied with the handsets were rated 1.2v, 600mAh and werethree individual AAA batteries.As I recall, the manual said to charge the batteries for a minimum of 12 hours prior to using the handsets.I'm wondering if the eneloop batteries would be able to be charged and used in thissystem.
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Hello, these particular Batteries are Double A or "AA" in your Questions you reference Triple A or "AAA" While Sanyo Eneloop does offer "AAA" Batteries that could be used in place of your "Panasonic HHR-65AAABU batteries" These particular Batteries would not be a comparable as they are "AA". You would just need to look for the Sanyo Eneloop AAA Batteries. Thanks
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It's preferred to use the Panasonic charger that came with the camera, but I've had no problems charging with an off-brand as well.
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I know this is a little older but YES, you can use the older Sanyo charger. While these Sanyo cells are gen 4 NiMH cells, NiMH chargers are not generation specific. (Obviously they (and other chargers) are chemistry-specific, as a NiMH charger only charges NiMH cells, NiCad only NiCad, Lithium only lithium of that specific voltage, etc., unless you have one of the advanced chargers, such as what is made by NiteCore IntelliCharger line, that is explicitly designed and labeled to be capable of charging batteries with different chemistries and different voltages.) I recommend consideration of a "smart" charger as they can extend the service life of the batteries by maintaining high capacity throughout its life. As these are Sanyo cells, the have the ability to keep a very long service life and a quality charger will maximize it...I have some of these eneloops in the 2nd generation version and with well over 700 load cycles they still have over 85% capacity!!!
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We are sorry but Panasonic does not state that these can be used with the older Sanyo chargers.
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The problem is that most likely the phone charger is a dumb straight, non terminating charger that is completely overcharging the eneloops. I really am annoyed at Panasonic for doing something in their phones such that a completed charged set of eneloops will show up as need to be charged. Stupid. I want to charge my eneloops in my own smart charger, not the dumb phone cradle chargers.
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These are indeed the latest generation Eneloop available in the US. There is a 4th generation available in the Asian market that is labeled as Panasonic Eneloop, for Panasonic is now the parent company of Sanyo. The 4th generation cell is apparently good for 2000 cycles (recharges), whereas the 3rd generation is rated for 1800 cycles. Eneloop batteries are availble in different colors on a limited basis and I have seen the blue cell that you are referring to. There is also an Eneloop lite version that is blue, but is lower capacity. I have purchased a number of these 3rd generation cells from MYBATTERYSUPPLIER through Amazon and have had great results in high performance LED flashlights. I highly recommend them.
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Stuart i don't know ebl - but i am using the eneloop for a while - that battery manufacturers are writing as capacity and what the battery is actual giving out are 2 tings - esp after you used them 20+ times the eneloop is made for dependency and for long live - they will hold most of their charge even after one year storage - the price is a little lest mah other batteries can give you more mah but loosing most of it in the first month of storage - so depending where you are using it you should choose. I prefer eneloop because I know i have something solid for the next years - they hardly dies in the charger last pretty long and holding their charge. This doesn't say that other ones are not equal.
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I've been using eneloop generation 1 batteries in my panasonic cordless phones for 6 months. No problems; never expected any anyhow.
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They are electrically and mechanically identical to 2nd-gen Sanyo eneloop batteries ('1500-cycle'). The latest 4th-gen eneloop cells are advertised as '2100-cycle', but in real life you are not going to see any advantage over the AmazonBasics version.
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So what is the conclusion? :-)I have a panasonic dect 6.0 phone and its batteries are no good. I am using eneloop and charging them on panasonic charger because if I charge my eneloop (from Costco pack) and put them in the phone, I get an error message - "Please charge phone for 7 hours". These eneloop work so much better than panasonic batteries.How does charging on panasonic charger that comes with the phone affect eneloop?
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I've been using them (the original eneloop batteries) in my Fuji semi-pro HD camera (photos and movies) for past two years and they appear to last slightly longer than the alkaline Duracell copper top batteries. Currently, testing Panasonic eneloop batteries in my Panasonic pro camera and first usage is better than original eneloop batteries. Note: My Panasonic camera is not HD.
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Not any more.. PowerGenix had a Nickel-Zinc (NiZn) AA Battery that was but it still did not compare to the eneloop Pro / XX line. Remember that the eneloop Pro only has a 500 Cycle Life compared to the eneloop with 2100 Cycles.. But the Pro is a Higher Capacity Battery designed for devices like High Power Camera Flash's, RC Toys, High Draw Lab Equipment, Wireless Mics Etc.
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AA Rechargeable Energizer, popped right in, and is charging now. The old Eneloop lasted though, for over 5 years. I just replaced it today. I can't remember when I even bought it, or where for that matter.