ATI TV Wonder 650 Is it fact or internet rumor that this product has been recalled by ATI and has been pulled from both the store and internet shelves of Best Buy? If so, why is this product still offered by Amazon? ATI TV Wonder 650 Is it fact or internet rumor that this product has been recalled by ATI and has been pulled from both the store and internet shelves of Best Buy? If so, why is this product still... » Read More ATI TV Wonder 650 Is it fact or internet rumor that this product has been recalled by ATI and has been pulled from both the store and internet shelves of Best Buy? If so, why is this product still offered by Amazon? « Show Less
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engadgethd.com and dailytech.com both have articles that this item was recalled by ATI.I was at Best Buy here in Vegas yesterday (9/27/06) and they had some on the shelf.There and Amazon are the only places I have seen them so I'm going to assume it was just an oversight by them and will wait for the new ones to come out.
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According to a review of the card at http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/hardware/1660_6.html: "ATI launched the TV Wonder 650 a month ago and almost immediately recalled it due to a faulty transistor."
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After contacting ATI customer service they said the card was recalled due to overheating issues. He said that the problem would be resolved by next month.
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I am looking to buy this tv as well. Bestbuy has it for the same price. + tax of course. i hear alot about a buzz. that is why i am thinking best buy might be the way to go just in case of a return.
617091
Eagle "lost" my TV and Amazon has since hiked up the price on the 4665. They're offering refund but not replacement, so I've effectively lost another $500. I'm taking my money elsewhere.
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Why don't u ask Amazon if 7 still comes with the package? The computer is supposed to come with instructions on what to do to get a copy of 7. I ordered this model yesterday and expect no problems. If the box doesn't have the info I'll contact Toshiba. I think its on their website but not sure. Don't u think people would be freaking out in the review if the 7 upgrade is not included? Best Buy- Go on their site and see for yourself. People don't get the facts straight many times. If you don't see the computer forget about it.
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I would worry. I was supposed to have my TV delivered last Friday. Never came, no call from Pilot or anything. I call every day since then and just found out today that Pilot "does not have the TV", they lost it. They blamed Amazon, Amazon blames Pilot. Long story short I'm not getting a TV as Amazon no longer has any in stock to send me as a replacement. Very upset with both companies. I hope your experience turns out better.
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I agree that this TV is excessively priced, especially since this is an old model as pointed out by Shaq. I don't understand Amazon's strategy. If they are sitting on a bunch of old TVs in their inventory, why don't they price them with a true sales price ?? Like in the week before the Super Bowl for example ?? Just a suggestion... I know I would consider buying it then !!
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Yes, well known Amazon SCAM. They did this with other HDTV sets earlier. The basic idea is that they will match all of the major stores BF ads online. People prefer to stay home and order from Amazon for the same price instead of waiting for hours at Best Buy or Walmart. However what they don't tell you is that they have two of each to sell and the deals are gone in an instant. Now people are forced to buy it at FULL PRICE. Notice that the TV sets are NOT OUT OF STOCK. They are IN STOCK, however you can only buy it for the FULL PRICE. You have lost a customer for life, you dirty scamming bastrds!!!! Yes, well known Amazon SCAM. They did this with other HDTV sets earlier. The basic idea is that they will match all of the major stores BF ads online. People prefer to stay home and order from Amazon for the same price instead of waiting for hours at Best Buy or Walmart. However what they don't tell you is that they have two of each to sell and the deals are gone in an instant. Now people are forced to buy it at FULL PRICE. Notice that the TV sets are NOT OUT OF STOCK. They are IN STOCK, however you can only buy it for the FULL PRICE. You have lost a customer for life, you dirty scamming... » Read More Yes, well known Amazon SCAM. They did this with other HDTV sets earlier. The basic idea is that they will match all of the major stores BF ads online. People prefer to stay home and order from Amazon for the same price instead of waiting for hours at Best Buy or Walmart. However what they don't tell you is that they have two of each to sell and the deals are gone in an instant. Now people are forced to buy it at FULL PRICE. Notice that the TV sets are NOT OUT OF STOCK. They are IN STOCK, however you can only buy it for the FULL PRICE. You have lost a customer for life, you dirty scamming bastrds!!!! « Show Less
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Amazon and TLC are completely negligent for still having the firmware update on their websites that breaks your TV! Come on guys, can't anyone have enough thought and initiative to take it down? Is there someone, anywhere that is a thinking employee?
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I just saw that Best Buy has it listed for the price that Amazon had it listed at not too long ago (around 2,200.00). It's not available at all their stores though..
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I just ordered 2 of these for my sons for christmas. I was under the understanding that they were wifi capable when I ordered them. Now when looking on best buys website where I ordered from, it shows that they have no built in wifi. What am i missing here. Everywhere else shows this model to have wifi. HELP please, I don't want two dissappointed kids on Christmas morning!
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I bought this unit on 2/16. After transaction with sales person, merchandise pickup person says, "Oh, looks like the last one just got carried out of the store, we'll have more in Saturday". Then they pushed out to 3/3. It's now 3/2 and they just told me today they'll be getting more in on 3/21. WTF? Do they just have no clue it's been discontinued or is Sony going to send out a few more for orders that had already been placed?
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This was posted a couple days ago: http://www.dealerscope.com/story/story.bsp?sid=83287&var;=story. The gist it that Samsung has stated that they are still on schedule of releasing this player in time for Christmas. Also, they have reduced the MSRP to 799 which means that at some point Amazon should lower its price to somewhere in the 600 range--(Just a guess about what Amazon will do). So this is good news indeed!
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I just posted the same question - I was 1 week away from buying this TV (pay day) and suddenly it's only being sold by a 3rd party. Amazon DID begin carrying the item after your post (Oct 2007) but I wonder if this was the final runout :(
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Jeff, on the week of 12/16/07 Bestbuy had this HD advantage promotion program. This unit was on sale for $2000. Here are the promotion: $300 off if you signed up with 2 years contract with DirecTV$100 rebate gift certificate with NFLshop.comI took the above$100 off if you buy a blue ray player $100 off if you buy a $500 stere speaker system Maybe the unit looked bad on the old firmware. I have talked to many people who has plasma for years; they all said this TV's picture quality is amazing. They all recommend to jump in if you can get it under $2000. Jeff, on the week of 12/16/07 Bestbuy had this HD advantage promotion program. This unit was on sale for $2000. Here are the promotion: $300 off if you signed up with 2 years contract with DirecTV$100 rebate gift certificate with NFLshop.comI took the above$100 off if you buy a blue ray player $100 off if you buy a $500 stere speaker system Maybe the unit looked bad on the old firmware. I have talked to many people who has plasma for years; they all said this TV's picture quality is amazing. They all recommend to jump in if you can get it under $2000.
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It's funny that Amazon listed EE as having the TV and now they are on back order. EE has them listed as in store only. I've been waiting 3 1/2 weeks also because it's a good price when ever they get it shipped.
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I just wanted to warn people. After I saw the post by "Internet Shopper" I did some quick background reasearch on basics4home (the person/company selling the TV for $1649). On Ebay the guy/company got a lot of negative comments recently - check this out http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid;=basics4home&ftab;=AllFeedback.So be warnwed - I would have been tempted - but the feedback about him being a potential scamster puts me off.
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Very good points. I noticed the 630 last night actually was in the $1400s. It seems to have been raised over night.I'm not in marketing, but it seems to me they adjusted the 630's price in order to make the 650 appear as if it is a good deal. Which don't get me wrong. $1550 is a great price for this TV based on other suppliers. However, it's illogical that they are raising the price unless they are simply trying to make more money or are getting low on stock. Either way, like you Stratixman, I won't buy it from amazon at this price. I had planned to use amazon but if they don't lower it back to where it was a week ago, I'll be using newegg. I'll give it a couple days but after that, newegg will have my business. Very good points. I noticed the 630 last night actually was in the $1400s. It seems to have been raised over night.I'm not in marketing, but it seems to me they adjusted the 630's price in order to make the 650 appear as if it is a good deal. Which don't get me wrong. $1550 is a great price for this TV based on other suppliers. However, it's illogical that they are raising the price unless they are simply trying to make more money or are getting low on stock. Either way, like you Stratixman, I won't buy it from amazon at this price. I had planned to use amazon but if... » Read More Very good points. I noticed the 630 last night actually was in the $1400s. It seems to have been raised over night.I'm not in marketing, but it seems to me they adjusted the 630's price in order to make the 650 appear as if it is a good deal. Which don't get me wrong. $1550 is a great price for this TV based on other suppliers. However, it's illogical that they are raising the price unless they are simply trying to make more money or are getting low on stock. Either way, like you Stratixman, I won't buy it from amazon at this price. I had planned to use amazon but if they don't lower it back to where it was a week ago, I'll be using newegg. I'll give it a couple days but after that, newegg will have my business. « Show Less