TCP50g10 versus ln52b750 I am having a horrible time deciding between these two tvs. Both got superb reviews, but each one has its own perks. For some reason, i keep being attracted back to the 'brightness' of the lcd model, but the best buy guy yesterday almost sold me on the plasma when talking about the better overall picture and smooth motion. I think the ln52b750 is 240 hz (still low compared to the 600 hz of the plasma). Its hard to look at plasmas in the store because i keep veering back to the brighter lcds. I know thats the bad way to shop. Can anyone help me decide between these two awesome sets? I may play a couple video games, and would watch some sports occasionally, and maybe even start a small blu ray collection. TCP50g10 versus ln52b750 I am having a horrible time deciding between these two tvs. Both got superb reviews, but each one has its own perks. For some reason, i keep being attracted back to the... » Read More TCP50g10 versus ln52b750 I am having a horrible time deciding between these two tvs. Both got superb reviews, but each one has its own perks. For some reason, i keep being attracted back to the 'brightness' of the lcd model, but the best buy guy yesterday almost sold me on the plasma when talking about the better overall picture and smooth motion. I think the ln52b750 is 240 hz (still low compared to the 600 hz of the plasma). Its hard to look at plasmas in the store because i keep veering back to the brighter lcds. I know thats the bad way to shop. Can anyone help me decide between these two awesome sets? I may play a couple video games, and would watch some sports occasionally, and maybe even start a small blu ray collection. « Show Less
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Socks - I have a flourescent backlit LCD not LED backlit and the Sony LCD looks great with lights on and off. Not as good as the plasma, but as I said LCDs do have their advantages. Eventually the LED-based LCDs will match plasma's picture quality, but it hasn't happened yet.One nice LCD advantage is its lower power consumption and heat generation -- my plasma has 4 cooling fans, my LCD has none.
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My mistake -- I was referring to the V10. Still, keep in mind the Samsung's 240Hz refresh does *not* help to dejudder film sources - it has a "dejudder" feature to do that and CNET preferred to leave it off I think.
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I have a Samsung ln40b610 and I hate the dejudder processing. It makes motion look so unrealistic and completely ruins the magic of movies for me. There is also still a lot of blur and ghosting, even with the anti-blur setting turned all the way up. I think LCDs are just inherently poor at handling motion. 120Hz and 240Hz does help a little bit, but not really that much.
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LCDs use less energy and are not susceptible to burn-in. I have both kinds of tv's and they each have their pros/cons. I have not seen the issues you mention with LCD - newer models are much better, however I do prefer the picture quality of my plasma.
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Hi! the panny G10 will have a more natural picture, but it will not have the better smooth motion when your watching 24p. If you go to the store to and watch it in the true cinema with a blu-ray at 24hz , then you will notice a ficker at the display. This will turn anyone away if they are looking for this feature. Remember that plasma 600hz is not equivalent to lcd 240hz. These two are really 48hz panny G10 -vs- 240hz sammy. The 600hz is really a give number to reduce the amout of time the frame will be display(this will reduce after effects). Remember that plasma needs at least 72hz to be able to display the 24p correctly. hope this will help someone....:) Hi! the panny G10 will have a more natural picture, but it will not have the better smooth motion when your watching 24p. If you go to the store to and watch it in the true cinema with a blu-ray at 24hz , then you will notice a ficker at the display. This will turn anyone away if they are looking for this feature. Remember that plasma 600hz is not equivalent to lcd 240hz. These two are really 48hz panny G10 -vs- 240hz sammy. The 600hz is really a give number to reduce the amout of time the frame will be display(this will reduce after effects). Remember that plasma needs at least 72hz to be... » Read More Hi! the panny G10 will have a more natural picture, but it will not have the better smooth motion when your watching 24p. If you go to the store to and watch it in the true cinema with a blu-ray at 24hz , then you will notice a ficker at the display. This will turn anyone away if they are looking for this feature. Remember that plasma 600hz is not equivalent to lcd 240hz. These two are really 48hz panny G10 -vs- 240hz sammy. The 600hz is really a give number to reduce the amout of time the frame will be display(this will reduce after effects). Remember that plasma needs at least 72hz to be able to display the 24p correctly. hope this will help someone....:) « Show Less
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I bought a LN52B750 after a great deal of research. Unfortunately, I cannot take anymore of the fake looking/soap opera/camcorder type picture with this tv, especially after adjusting to minimize blurring. Due to headache and visual strain, I even stopped watching this tv and I am sending it back for a plasma. Hope that helps.
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Hi!I am not saying your wrong, but CNET review says the following about the panny G10 "Beyond the basics, Panasonic provides the capability to change the refresh rate to 48Hz, although doing so causes flicker."(cut and paste) Now the panny V10 does the refresh rate to 96hz.Please read the enitre Cnet review about the panny g10
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Actually online aficionado......The new Samsung LED's are WORSE. It is mentioned in cnets reviews and some have left comments here on amazon. One guy mentioned how he can see streaks running through his new LED tv in a dark room. So yeah... LCD's only look good when the lights are on.My friend has a panasonic plasma that he games on a lot. NO BURN IT. There is temporary image retention but that goes away fast.
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Overall "brightness" is about the only perk of an LCD set. You would not even notice that a plasma is "dimmer" once you got it home and plugged it up. The best way to experience the overall quality of an HDTV is in a dark room. A dark room is where Plasma shows its real beauty and LCD shows its ugly side. The issues with LCD technology like bad viewing angles, ghosting, flashlighting, clouding etc. were enough to send me to plasma.
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I've pretty much decided on purchasing the Panasonic 50PZ800U. I notice from your previous post that you have LCDs in your home as well. How would you compare the viewing experience between those and your new plasma? As far as HDTV, do you have Cable or Satellite? I currently have Satellite, but will switch to FIOS based on reviews in Consumer Reports.I really appreciate your time!
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I personally like the 50" Panasonic plasm. I have mostly looked at the 50PZ700u. I person I work with, who is a stickler for this kind of stuff, bought this TV and really has enjoyed it. According to him you really cant beat it without going up in price by a few thousand dollars. Just as a side note, best I can tell these couple of models use the same panel and just have a few minor differences.50PZ700U - My preferred right now50PZ750U - Same with some more plugs and color settings. Costs more as well.50PZ77U - Not totally sure what the difference is, but it seems very similar. I personally like the 50" Panasonic plasm. I have mostly looked at the 50PZ700u. I person I work with, who is a stickler for this kind of stuff, bought this TV and really has enjoyed it. According to him you really cant beat it without going up in price by a few thousand dollars. Just as a side note, best I can tell these couple of models use the same panel and just have a few minor differences.50PZ700U - My preferred right now50PZ750U - Same with some more plugs and color settings. Costs more as well.50PZ77U - Not totally sure what the difference... » Read More I personally like the 50" Panasonic plasm. I have mostly looked at the 50PZ700u. I person I work with, who is a stickler for this kind of stuff, bought this TV and really has enjoyed it. According to him you really cant beat it without going up in price by a few thousand dollars. Just as a side note, best I can tell these couple of models use the same panel and just have a few minor differences.50PZ700U - My preferred right now50PZ750U - Same with some more plugs and color settings. Costs more as well.50PZ77U - Not totally sure what the difference is, but it seems very similar. « Show Less
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That's good to know Bridger. I have this one (Samsung plasma PN50B450) as well and the manual states that brightness and contrast should be reduced to prevent burn in while play video games. Also appreciate the first hundred hour rule-mixing tv with games.Thanks. The only thing I'm worried about is my kids walking away from a video game and a screen just sitting there. But hey, for the price you could buy another one and not spend what you can for a 1080p lcd 52 inch. I know that defeats the purpose but isn't that why you would be interesed in this tv anyways? for the price?
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Can you tell me what exactly worked? I just started looking into buying this television and am not following your blog. It would make me crazy if I had this problem because I've always had it with my Toshiba Plasma, which I'm replacing.
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I am thinking about buying this TV but, based on several reviews, plasma TV's experience problems like "burn ins". I would like to plug the TV in and watch it ,with the worry of "breaking it in". Perhaps plasma' are not meant for me. Any reactions?
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What about the L-Max graphics when attached to the tv? I'm looking for a back-up for the time when my L-Max goes again (already did once, and they did refurb it for $50, but for $15, this would be a much better option for all the cartridges we already have...we rarely play this on the road). Can anyone compare the graphics from the L-Max on the tv set to this on the same tv? I would think they'd be the same, since the cartridges are the same, but I'd love to know for sure...
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I found the G10 to be brighter in the store, but of course it was playing a Blue Ray. However, in my research, I found that the G10 actually puts out more light than a typical plasma, therefore better picture in a bright room. The TV may have been playing in THX mode which is dimmer and supposed to be played on that setting in a dark room...ex. at night watching a movie to simulate theater color. During the day, play the G10 at the Custom color setting. I dont have mine yet. It arrives tomorrow and will be located in a brighter room, so hope all works out!
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There are pretty much the same it terms of specs, with only a few differences. First, is the ever so marketing touting contrast ratio. Plasma HDTV's will seeming always have better contrast ratio then LED, but uses 2 to 3 times and sometimes more energy. I have the F8000 and I must say haven't had any issues to date, but I also read some good things about the F8500. Cnet has a good write up and video review on this very comparison, you should check it out. As I said earlier, the F8500 black levels are darker, but the F8000 can really brighten up a room which I prefer myself. The major physical difference is the weight and style of both HDTVs, the plasma is bulky while the LED is slimmer. Which ever you choose, I think you'll be pretty pleased with your purchase.
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I can only comment on the M3D550KD because that's what I own. The price difference is very close, so I consider the price as not a factor. The 240MHZ refresh rate was a big deal for me and I still think it's worth having. The picture is very smooth on DVD's and Blue Ray. HDTV is really nice as well. Standard definition is noticably worse, but I guess that's why they went to HD. The 3D is really cool. I didn't buy the TV for 3D, but it's one of my favorite features now. I've owned it for several months with no problems. Bottom line, if it was stolen off my wall, I'd buy another one to replace it. I can only comment on the M3D550KD because that's what I own. The price difference is very close, so I consider the price as not a factor. The 240MHZ refresh rate was a big deal for me and I still think it's worth having. The picture is very smooth on DVD's and Blue Ray. HDTV is really nice as well. Standard definition is noticably worse, but I guess that's why they went to HD. The 3D is really cool. I didn't buy the TV for 3D, but it's one of my favorite features now. I've owned it for several months with no problems. Bottom line, if it was stolen off my wall, I'd buy another one to... » Read More I can only comment on the M3D550KD because that's what I own. The price difference is very close, so I consider the price as not a factor. The 240MHZ refresh rate was a big deal for me and I still think it's worth having. The picture is very smooth on DVD's and Blue Ray. HDTV is really nice as well. Standard definition is noticably worse, but I guess that's why they went to HD. The 3D is really cool. I didn't buy the TV for 3D, but it's one of my favorite features now. I've owned it for several months with no problems. Bottom line, if it was stolen off my wall, I'd buy another one to replace it. « Show Less
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My husband did all of the research on this TV. He spoke with the guys at Best Buy, and they referred him directly to Samsung. Samsung explained that with the technology they have in this TV the refresh rate is so crisp and quick that the difference is unnoticeable. We viewed this TV at Best Buy compared to all of the other TV's on the wall and the picture is amazing. The best we had ever seen. We tried to buy it a Best Buy but they stopped selling them because a newer model was on it's way in. That is why we purchased the TV from Amazon. My husband is also a big gamer and the TV has setting for that vs. watching TV and movies. It's the best TV we have seen and we did a lot of shopping before be bought it. My husband did all of the research on this TV. He spoke with the guys at Best Buy, and they referred him directly to Samsung. Samsung explained that with the technology they have in this TV the refresh rate is so crisp and quick that the difference is unnoticeable. We viewed this TV at Best Buy compared to all of the other TV's on the wall and the picture is amazing. The best we had ever seen. We tried to buy it a Best Buy but they stopped selling them because a newer model was on it's way in. That is why we purchased the TV from Amazon. My husband is also a big gamer and the TV... » Read More My husband did all of the research on this TV. He spoke with the guys at Best Buy, and they referred him directly to Samsung. Samsung explained that with the technology they have in this TV the refresh rate is so crisp and quick that the difference is unnoticeable. We viewed this TV at Best Buy compared to all of the other TV's on the wall and the picture is amazing. The best we had ever seen. We tried to buy it a Best Buy but they stopped selling them because a newer model was on it's way in. That is why we purchased the TV from Amazon. My husband is also a big gamer and the TV has setting for that vs. watching TV and movies. It's the best TV we have seen and we did a lot of shopping before be bought it. « Show Less
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Bill, thanks for replying, I agree with you. I could not wait anymore, and I bought mine at Costco a few weeks ago, $639 was just too good to pass up. I think it's fine for a room with little natural light, but yes is seems dimmer than my old 37" panasonic plasma. But I am very happy with the picture quality and it's bright enough for my setup. I really like the TV so far.Marcel.
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Kevin, I am not answering your question but I am confirming that I have the same problem with Samsung I just purchased 3 days ago. It is a complete mirror in my family room. People say plasma or lcd/led has better picture quality, but if all you can see is the reflection of the room or trees and clouds in the sky reflecting from your window, then I would say that would be a very very poor quality picture. And shouldn't you be able to enjoy your TV and look outside your window at the same time? You shouldn't have to make your room like a cave to see your TV. We love our big windows and well-lit room. Never had this problem with our previous DLP. Sorry, just venting. I'm going in the store today to look at the Mitsubishi DLP's.
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Hi! I have been reading up on both tv's and it looks like the panasonic V10 is by far the best of the both. I just purchased the sammy b860 and also trying to find a good deal with the panny V10 (since it cost more). Both tv's can display the 24p at 96hz(24hzx4=96hz), so since the panny G10 can only do the 24p at 48hz(ficker problem). That's why tto me the sammy B860 is bump to second best, but this sammy has a buzzing sound if you live high above sea level. Remember this is just my opinion. hope this help someone......:)
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I'm also trying to decide between the two. Only difference seems to be that the 52b750 is 240hz instead of 120hz for the 55b650. I think that has something to do with response time. Hoping that we can get responses indicating whether or not the average person can notice the difference when watching tv. I would rather spend an extra $100 for a larger tv but wonder if I would be missing out on a better picture with the 240hz.
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There's a review on the LN--B750 line on CNET. Overall, it was rated as 'Excellent'. As far as the 240Hz motion is concerned, the review goes over the discernible, though slight, differences compared to 120Hz. I checked out forums about the LN46B750 and everyone had nothing but great things to say about it.I was actually able to cancel my LN46A860 with Crutchfueld even though it had already shipped (I still feel bad about this). Fortunately, customer service was exemplary and straightforward about the issue. I put in my order for the LN46B750 through Amazon with the $300-off promotion. I'll be receiving it by next mid-week. I'll let you know how it is. There's a review on the LN--B750 line on CNET. Overall, it was rated as 'Excellent'. As far as the 240Hz motion is concerned, the review goes over the discernible, though slight, differences compared to 120Hz. I checked out forums about the LN46B750 and everyone had nothing but great things to say about it.I was actually able to cancel my LN46A860 with Crutchfueld even though it had already shipped (I still feel bad about this). Fortunately, customer service was exemplary and straightforward about the issue. I put in my order for the LN46B750 through Amazon with the $300-off... » Read More There's a review on the LN--B750 line on CNET. Overall, it was rated as 'Excellent'. As far as the 240Hz motion is concerned, the review goes over the discernible, though slight, differences compared to 120Hz. I checked out forums about the LN46B750 and everyone had nothing but great things to say about it.I was actually able to cancel my LN46A860 with Crutchfueld even though it had already shipped (I still feel bad about this). Fortunately, customer service was exemplary and straightforward about the issue. I put in my order for the LN46B750 through Amazon with the $300-off promotion. I'll be receiving it by next mid-week. I'll let you know how it is. « Show Less
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Generally speaking, the refresh rate is not that important. Scenes with smooth motion and panning will generally look cleaner on a 120hz set, because the TV is successfully able to insert new frames (your video signal is not 120hz, but about 30hz. The difference is made up by the TV analyzing the frames and making new ones that go in between the original frames). Scenes with very choppy motion typically look worse (because the frames inserted by the TV don't match up correctly, making the image sharper and crisper-seeming but jerky and jittery). This is not a 120hz TV, though. If that feature is important to you, you're going to have to look at the true TV line (T260HD is really a monitor with TV features) I have a T260HD, and if you are going to use it primarily as a monitor, but also as a TV, it's pretty good. I've owned monitors that looked better, and I own a TV that looks better, but this unit is a good meld of the two. It has a very limited ideal viewing angle, and some problems with banding and bleeding at the edges, but it looks pretty good and it has all of the TV inputs. If you're looking for a TV that you will use as a monitor only occasionally, buy a TV that has a bunch of HDMI ports, and just get a DVI-&gt;HDMI adapter for your PC. Samsung's got several very nice TVs at 32" (the alternative you were considering). If you want the 120hz, the LN32B650 or LN32B640 will do it for you. If you don't care, the LN32B550 is a very nice display as well (I have the 40" B550, and I like it). Samsung doesn't have many high quality options in the 26" size (they're all 720p only, except for the monitor-TVs like this one)