Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st Generation Nano, 30GB Classic, and now wanted a newer 16GB Nano. But my big concern is the reviews with poor battery life. Any chance a newer firmware update has fixed or helped this "issue"? I had a 32GB Touch, but returned it unopened because of the size and cost. Plus I am planning on getting an iPhone late this year and figured it was almost redundant. So pretty sure I want the Nano, just concered about the battery life. Any ideas? Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st... » Read More Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st Generation Nano, 30GB Classic, and now wanted a newer 16GB Nano. But my big concern is the reviews with poor battery life. Any chance a newer firmware update has fixed or helped this "issue"? I had a 32GB Touch, but returned it unopened because of the size and cost. Plus I am planning on getting an iPhone late this year and figured it was almost redundant. So pretty sure I want the Nano, just concered about the battery life. Any ideas? « Show Less
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I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that. I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and... » Read More I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that. « Show Less
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Many of the reviews here on Amazon mention poor battery life. I would use it for the gym and on the plane. My concern is I am often on the plane 2+ hours so a 2 hour battery life would not be good for me. Not sure how many games I would be playing so purely for audio purposes it might be OK. I would go with a 2nd or 3rd generation Nano, but I am repalcing a 30GB iPod and going down to 4 or 8GB is not preferred. I am OK with 16GB, but no less so I think I still might choose this model. I originalyl had the Touch but I am lookign to get an iPhone later this year so I decided to return the Touch. Many of the reviews here on Amazon mention poor battery life. I would use it for the gym and on the plane. My concern is I am often on the plane 2+ hours so a 2 hour battery life would not be good for me. Not sure how many games I would be playing so purely for audio purposes it might be OK. I would go with a 2nd or 3rd generation Nano, but I am repalcing a 30GB iPod and going down to 4 or 8GB is not preferred. I am OK with 16GB, but no less so I think I still might choose this model. I originalyl had the Touch but I am lookign to get an iPhone later this year so I decided to return the Touch.
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No, the battery life is only short when your messing around on the menu, but when your listening to music and NOTHING else, it's a whole different story. One time I was listening to music at night, fell asleep, woke up in the morning and there was only HALF the batttery life. It was fully charged at night, so there is about 20 hr. of music listening time, or whatever you call it. Anywho, there's to many kids on Amazon that treat there things poorly, get on the computer, and type a bad review about it. I think the new ipod nano is awesome and has good battery life.
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fannie lou, sounds like you got a lemon. I'd return if it was me. And regardless would return it since you already have docking systems. The charging issue is a known one, if you have older docking systems, it may likely not work. New docking systems will most likely work. That does suck. My attitude is that the Nano 4th gen is great for first time ipod users like myself (who will buy new docking stations anyway), not so good for existing users.
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I received a 4th Generation for Christmas and have no trouble with batterylife. I often listen to audiobooks as well as listening at work. I don't have a charging station at work and can usually go at least 2 full working days (8 hour days) without charging.
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Have emailed Sony twice and talked to two different customer service reps and they both tell me this is NOT compatible with the 4th G Nano. Really like this system but unsure if I should purchase or not. How are Amazons returns??
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I have the exact same problem, my 2nd Gen just broke and the new shuffle appear to be worthless. Some people recommend buying a reconditioned 2nd Gen from Apple but they appear to be out of stock. Not sure where to turn! Ipod Nano is popular but heavier than I'd prefer. Bring back the 2nd Gen Apple!
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Eh. Already have a 3rd Gen iPad. The big push for me is the cost of replacing the battery vs buying a new one. If I trade my iTouch in I can get $129. So that's $170 away from a replacement 5th gen iTouch. Then I gotta buy a stupid adapter. Replacing the battery when the time comes will cost me $79. Is the extra $100 or so bucks before adapters worth it? What happened to the 8 gb iTouch? I don't need 32 gb anymore!
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I'll give that a shot. I've noticed that they only claim to support the 5th gen and newer Nano, as well as the iPhone/iTouch. I was using a 4th gen Nano and an old classic (at that time just called the iPod). Now I have a 5th gen Nano, and it seems to work? I'll report back after more testing.
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I've had my Zen Nano Plus for about a year now. It's been flawless. Use it working out, cutting grass, on vacation at the beach, etc. Lots of fun with no problems.So, I have to agree with all the other comments/posts here. I'm sure the Ipod is a great product too, but I think you get more bang for the buck with the Creative Zen Nano Plus. (And it's great that you don't have to load any software on your computer to use it. Just drag and drop.)
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Battery is not perfect, it is good and based on you usage, I think after I have upgraded my iPhone to the new software, both are lasting the same time.I do recommend that for you, with only one note, the software is SLOW, so you will have to wait a while after doing any command the phone to response.The box has, the phone, 2 battaries, headphone, pod and charger (USB)
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I does not work with anything newer than the ipod nano 3rd generation. I bought an ipod nano 4th gen but it did not work in the iGroove. I still use the 3rd generation keep it in the iGroove which is in my garage for when I work on projects love the player it sounds awesome.
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Pls excuse my ignorance - I know nothing about any of this but am looking to buy for my niece. So my stupid question is this: With Skype and the other items noted above, she can use this ipod as a telephone, correct? Then it must have WiFi access? But to use it as a cell phone wouldn't be good as you can't always pick up a WiFi connection. Do I have this right?On the other side of the coin, the new Iphone also has an Ipod in it, but I can't find anywhere on Apple site how much storage it has for ipod capability - how many songs can it hold (Assuming New IPhone 3g 16g)?
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The nano's are more reliable than the Classic versions. My old 60GB failed 3 times over the course of 4yrs while my 2nd gen Nano has never failed and I've had it for 3yrs.I have this 120GB Classic now though and it's been going strong for 6 months.
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My Ipod, is a Nano, so not so new, but I use it every day and have recently downloaded new tunes from itunes. It works great!
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I agree with W Yang, with the iphone your locks you into a 2 year contract for very slow internet connection, Steve Jobs himself said this at the release yesterday, that the wifi is a much faster system than what the iphone uses. to me the choice is easy over my current ipod video, larger touch screen, and wifi. i only need about 4gb of music so this will leave me 12gb for video podcasts and movies. and with the flash memory less parts to fail than with a hard drive. Oh and what about a camera, wheres the camera.....lol
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My friend gave me one for free. It works great with my 3rd gen Nano. It adds the "radio" function to the ipod menu. I have used it simply for the remote option (not in radio mode) and didn't notice the extra drain on the battery that others complain about.
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HI Anne, I got the 4g nano for Christmas. My first Ipod. It's pretty cool. Anyway i have fit 7 hours of video(movies), 1 hour of video podcasts and 130 songs all at once and still had 300mb free. I think for 50 bucks more it's well worth it to double the size. I made my own movies from my dvd's so i left off credits to save space. not sure if an itunes movie would take more space. Hope tha helps
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I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that.
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haha go ahead and vent :)If I were you I would just wait. But dont buy the AppleCare for your 80gig. Just use it till it dies and isnt covered by warranty, and get whichever new one comes out. However next time check out macrumors and they have a buying guide, it shows you the past "update" history of the various mac products and gives you a small bit of advice on wether to buy or not. I'm going to stick with my 30gb for now too. Maybe give it to a family memeber later and buy a new one later :)
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I recently bought the 8GB Nano from Amazon and returned it within a week due to the problems you describe. I thought I was the only one. 8GB Nano would freeze up at least once a day, and would sometimes turn on unexpectedly (when it was turned off and I would just pick it up) with a solid white screen that would not turn off and would not respond to button presses - I would have to reset it. I was so disappointed with my ipod experience that I requested a refund (rather than a replacment) so I can buy a competitor's product. I am jaded about Apple/iPod now.