Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st Generation Nano, 30GB Classic, and now wanted a newer 16GB Nano. But my big concern is the reviews with poor battery life. Any chance a newer firmware update has fixed or helped this "issue"? I had a 32GB Touch, but returned it unopened because of the size and cost. Plus I am planning on getting an iPhone late this year and figured it was almost redundant. So pretty sure I want the Nano, just concered about the battery life. Any ideas? Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st... » Read More Is the 4th Generation Nano battery life really that bad? Was thinking of buying one for use on the airplane and gym (mostly for audio, not much if any video). I have gone through a Mini, 1st Generation Nano, 30GB Classic, and now wanted a newer 16GB Nano. But my big concern is the reviews with poor battery life. Any chance a newer firmware update has fixed or helped this "issue"? I had a 32GB Touch, but returned it unopened because of the size and cost. Plus I am planning on getting an iPhone late this year and figured it was almost redundant. So pretty sure I want the Nano, just concered about the battery life. Any ideas? « Show Less
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I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that. I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and... » Read More I just got the 16GB for Christmas. After reading all the battery posts, the first thing I did was charge it fully, then play it until the battery died. I got 20+ hours. I think a lot has to do with how often the screen is "lit". If you're constantly shuffling through, picking songs, adjusting volume etc. i think one would get less life than just playing it like I did (the screen was black most of the time since I wasn't adjusting anything). And of course, i would expect video or games to kill the battery even quicker. That would be a good test, play a video straight through and see the life. I don't have any videos loaded, so I can't really test that. « Show Less
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Many of the reviews here on Amazon mention poor battery life. I would use it for the gym and on the plane. My concern is I am often on the plane 2+ hours so a 2 hour battery life would not be good for me. Not sure how many games I would be playing so purely for audio purposes it might be OK. I would go with a 2nd or 3rd generation Nano, but I am repalcing a 30GB iPod and going down to 4 or 8GB is not preferred. I am OK with 16GB, but no less so I think I still might choose this model. I originalyl had the Touch but I am lookign to get an iPhone later this year so I decided to return the Touch. Many of the reviews here on Amazon mention poor battery life. I would use it for the gym and on the plane. My concern is I am often on the plane 2+ hours so a 2 hour battery life would not be good for me. Not sure how many games I would be playing so purely for audio purposes it might be OK. I would go with a 2nd or 3rd generation Nano, but I am repalcing a 30GB iPod and going down to 4 or 8GB is not preferred. I am OK with 16GB, but no less so I think I still might choose this model. I originalyl had the Touch but I am lookign to get an iPhone later this year so I decided to return the Touch.
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No, the battery life is only short when your messing around on the menu, but when your listening to music and NOTHING else, it's a whole different story. One time I was listening to music at night, fell asleep, woke up in the morning and there was only HALF the batttery life. It was fully charged at night, so there is about 20 hr. of music listening time, or whatever you call it. Anywho, there's to many kids on Amazon that treat there things poorly, get on the computer, and type a bad review about it. I think the new ipod nano is awesome and has good battery life.
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fannie lou, sounds like you got a lemon. I'd return if it was me. And regardless would return it since you already have docking systems. The charging issue is a known one, if you have older docking systems, it may likely not work. New docking systems will most likely work. That does suck. My attitude is that the Nano 4th gen is great for first time ipod users like myself (who will buy new docking stations anyway), not so good for existing users.
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I received a 4th Generation for Christmas and have no trouble with batterylife. I often listen to audiobooks as well as listening at work. I don't have a charging station at work and can usually go at least 2 full working days (8 hour days) without charging.
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Thanks for the info. I ended up keeping my 1st gen & doing the upgrade for $10. I love it! After using it the speaker seems like it would be worthless & it is very easier to adjust the volume anyway.
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I recently bought the 8GB Nano from Amazon and returned it within a week due to the problems you describe. I thought I was the only one. 8GB Nano would freeze up at least once a day, and would sometimes turn on unexpectedly (when it was turned off and I would just pick it up) with a solid white screen that would not turn off and would not respond to button presses - I would have to reset it. I was so disappointed with my ipod experience that I requested a refund (rather than a replacment) so I can buy a competitor's product. I am jaded about Apple/iPod now.
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Thanks for your detailed response. Do you know if the 6thG Classic will still charge when docked to (for example) a clock radio?? I read that the 4thG Nano will still play music from such a device, but no longer charge the battery(unlike 3rdG Nano). I find this really annoying ...
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My Ipod, is a Nano, so not so new, but I use it every day and have recently downloaded new tunes from itunes. It works great!
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I absolutely agree with the OP.This is the most advanced MP3 player on the planet, and to ship it with 16GB Flash instead of an 80 or 160GB microdrive, like the classic has, was stupid IMHO.It would have also been considerably cheaper with a 160GB drive instead of 16GB of Flash.I have a 2nd Gen iPod and a 1st gen 4GB Nano, both still in perfect condition. The Touch was to be my next purchase, but now I'm just not so sure any more.To be totally honest, the 160GB iPod Classic is a FAR better buy. It's cheaper, has 10 times the storage, has the same new interface and OS, and lasts 40 hours per charge.Apple has made my decision WAY too hard. I absolutely agree with the OP.This is the most advanced MP3 player on the planet, and to ship it with 16GB Flash instead of an 80 or 160GB microdrive, like the classic has, was stupid IMHO.It would have also been considerably cheaper with a 160GB drive instead of 16GB of Flash.I have a 2nd Gen iPod and a 1st gen 4GB Nano, both still in perfect condition. The Touch was to be my next purchase, but now I'm just not so sure any more.To be totally honest, the 160GB iPod Classic is a FAR better buy. It's cheaper, has 10 times the storage, has the... » Read More I absolutely agree with the OP.This is the most advanced MP3 player on the planet, and to ship it with 16GB Flash instead of an 80 or 160GB microdrive, like the classic has, was stupid IMHO.It would have also been considerably cheaper with a 160GB drive instead of 16GB of Flash.I have a 2nd Gen iPod and a 1st gen 4GB Nano, both still in perfect condition. The Touch was to be my next purchase, but now I'm just not so sure any more.To be totally honest, the 160GB iPod Classic is a FAR better buy. It's cheaper, has 10 times the storage, has the same new interface and OS, and lasts 40 hours per charge.Apple has made my decision WAY too hard. « Show Less
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Depends on what you really want, yes if this is your first ipod I'd go for it, but since it is Hard drive based it will have skipping issues if your jogging or walking sometimes, otherwise if you sit at your desk and listen to it, it will be fine. Then again if you want something that will go anywhere and handle anything, go for the ipod nano, it does everything the classic does, but it's just smaller in size and storage, if you want a bigger screen that will handle anything also go for the ipod touch.When I say handle anything, I mean jogging running, being dropped, because they are flash based and wont skip. Depends on what you really want, yes if this is your first ipod I'd go for it, but since it is Hard drive based it will have skipping issues if your jogging or walking sometimes, otherwise if you sit at your desk and listen to it, it will be fine. Then again if you want something that will go anywhere and handle anything, go for the ipod nano, it does everything the classic does, but it's just smaller in size and storage, if you want a bigger screen that will handle anything also go for the ipod touch.When I say handle anything, I mean jogging running, being dropped,... » Read More Depends on what you really want, yes if this is your first ipod I'd go for it, but since it is Hard drive based it will have skipping issues if your jogging or walking sometimes, otherwise if you sit at your desk and listen to it, it will be fine. Then again if you want something that will go anywhere and handle anything, go for the ipod nano, it does everything the classic does, but it's just smaller in size and storage, if you want a bigger screen that will handle anything also go for the ipod touch.When I say handle anything, I mean jogging running, being dropped, because they are flash based and wont skip. « Show Less
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Eh. Already have a 3rd Gen iPad. The big push for me is the cost of replacing the battery vs buying a new one. If I trade my iTouch in I can get $129. So that's $170 away from a replacement 5th gen iTouch. Then I gotta buy a stupid adapter. Replacing the battery when the time comes will cost me $79. Is the extra $100 or so bucks before adapters worth it? What happened to the 8 gb iTouch? I don't need 32 gb anymore!
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ya, I immediately noticed the weaker battery life in this model. That, and the lack of supporting docking charges are my main complaints/concerns. I understand that the accelerometer is probably using more battery life but COME ONE why does this thing drop down to half life within 4 hrs of use?? And it wouldn't be so bad If I could use my car charger with it, but nope, no compatibility. I'm not sure if this is something that can be corrected with firmware updates but Apple should really get on this.
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Thanks, that helped a lot. I just looked up the ipod nano vidio and realized that it does everything the classic does, it's just smaller. It even costs less. I also wasn't able to find any complaints on it, which is much more than can be said for the classic. Thanks again, I'm going to get that instead now and probably save myself a lot of disappointment.
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Any older dock will do fine with the ipod nano 16 gb. I have an ih4, which is really old, and it worked with my ipod nano 4th generation. If you upgrade to the ipod touch 2nd generation however, think about getting this model. Anyways, to make my point clear, ANY OLDER IPOD DOCK WILL WORK WITH THE IPOD NANO 4TH GENERATION. And to answer your primary question, yes, I would think that if an older ipod dock is compatible with my ipod nano 16 gb, yours would be fine with this dock. But check other sources before you get this model. I'm just guessing bassed on common sense and past experiences with ihome. Any older dock will do fine with the ipod nano 16 gb. I have an ih4, which is really old, and it worked with my ipod nano 4th generation. If you upgrade to the ipod touch 2nd generation however, think about getting this model. Anyways, to make my point clear, ANY OLDER IPOD DOCK WILL WORK WITH THE IPOD NANO 4TH GENERATION. And to answer your primary question, yes, I would think that if an older ipod dock is compatible with my ipod nano 16 gb, yours would be fine with this dock. But check other sources before you get this model. I'm just guessing bassed on common sense and past experiences... » Read More Any older dock will do fine with the ipod nano 16 gb. I have an ih4, which is really old, and it worked with my ipod nano 4th generation. If you upgrade to the ipod touch 2nd generation however, think about getting this model. Anyways, to make my point clear, ANY OLDER IPOD DOCK WILL WORK WITH THE IPOD NANO 4TH GENERATION. And to answer your primary question, yes, I would think that if an older ipod dock is compatible with my ipod nano 16 gb, yours would be fine with this dock. But check other sources before you get this model. I'm just guessing bassed on common sense and past experiences with ihome. « Show Less
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I have a nano they suck, mine has broken three times and every time i send it in it takes forever to come back if you must get one be careful dont drop them at all or the screen will split then it is imposible to see what your playing.
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haha go ahead and vent :)If I were you I would just wait. But dont buy the AppleCare for your 80gig. Just use it till it dies and isnt covered by warranty, and get whichever new one comes out. However next time check out macrumors and they have a buying guide, it shows you the past "update" history of the various mac products and gives you a small bit of advice on wether to buy or not. I'm going to stick with my 30gb for now too. Maybe give it to a family memeber later and buy a new one later :)
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I had 2000 songs,350 photos and over 100 apps and did not even touch the memory on the 64 gb ipod touch it all depends on how much GB any electronic has that is the memory that holds the information on the system I do not know anything about an ipod classic so I can not tell you if it is better to keep your classic the only other one I had was a nano and the 5th generation to me was the better of the two. I can test on this ipod and do everything that a cell phone can do and also do what a tablet can do. I am partign with mine only because I need th emoney to pay an unexpected emergency bill. I would never part with it. I had 2000 songs,350 photos and over 100 apps and did not even touch the memory on the 64 gb ipod touch it all depends on how much GB any electronic has that is the memory that holds the information on the system I do not know anything about an ipod classic so I can not tell you if it is better to keep your classic the only other one I had was a nano and the 5th generation to me was the better of the two. I can test on this ipod and do everything that a cell phone can do and also do what a tablet can do. I am partign with mine only because I need th emoney to pay an unexpected emergency... » Read More I had 2000 songs,350 photos and over 100 apps and did not even touch the memory on the 64 gb ipod touch it all depends on how much GB any electronic has that is the memory that holds the information on the system I do not know anything about an ipod classic so I can not tell you if it is better to keep your classic the only other one I had was a nano and the 5th generation to me was the better of the two. I can test on this ipod and do everything that a cell phone can do and also do what a tablet can do. I am partign with mine only because I need th emoney to pay an unexpected emergency bill. I would never part with it. « Show Less
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Unless you actually used the video playback features on your old Nano, you should definitely get this Nano. I love it, the design is sleak and I love being able to clip it on, and the touchscreen rocks. However, I have to say my fav iPod is the Classic. If the limited space bugged you on your old Nano, get the Classic.
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Don't waste your money on buying an old model cell from Amazon. I had my original MyTouch for atleast 2 years with no problem until I dropped it. I purchased one from Amazon a few months ago and it lasted 3 months 6 days with no exchange or refund. So I had to buy a new cell. Do yourself a favor, save your money and buy a current model cell...the new cells have so much more to offer and the cameras are amazing.
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I've had my Zen Nano Plus for about a year now. It's been flawless. Use it working out, cutting grass, on vacation at the beach, etc. Lots of fun with no problems.So, I have to agree with all the other comments/posts here. I'm sure the Ipod is a great product too, but I think you get more bang for the buck with the Creative Zen Nano Plus. (And it's great that you don't have to load any software on your computer to use it. Just drag and drop.)