Penny Wise and Pound Foolish? This model is on sale right now for 99 bucks which seems cheap, but is it really?Seems to me that after paying for a single map update you will be wishing you bought a model with lifetime maps. Heck with the laws about cell phones changing you can get a 1490LMT with bluetooth for around 150 without waiting for a sale... Penny Wise and Pound Foolish? This model is on sale right now for 99 bucks which seems cheap, but is it really?Seems to me that after paying for a single map update you will be wishing... » Read More Penny Wise and Pound Foolish? This model is on sale right now for 99 bucks which seems cheap, but is it really?Seems to me that after paying for a single map update you will be wishing you bought a model with lifetime maps. Heck with the laws about cell phones changing you can get a 1490LMT with bluetooth for around 150 without waiting for a sale... « Show Less
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Beware! I just tried to upgrade my free maps and Garmin's software download said I did not have enough space on the 1450. The only thing on it is their software! I had to choose a part of the country to load and not the complete US. The other option was to buy a microSD card. Plus the unit now loads slower and takes forever to do a calculation for a destination (i.e., 4x longer). I wish I could go back to the original map load but apparently you can't.
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it seems absurd to me that they all dont just come with lifetime maps... that said -- then why would anyone buy the update! heck ive driven all across this land with decades old maps.
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so the map in it doesnt 'expire' forcing you to get a new map? i was under the impression it was like a subscription and after x amount of time the device didnt work any more til you got the new subscription..?
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Why must everyone get a map update? I never do. Hell, one of my GPSs hasn't had a map update in ten years and it's not perfect... but with a little common sense I can use it to navigate anywhere I want.This one is recent enough that I think it's fine.For $99, it was an excellent deal. This is an awesome GPS. I don't think paying 50% more for maps and bluetooth is a bad idea, but not everyone needs either of those feature.
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It isn't out yet. It was supposed to be available between Nov, 15 and Dec. 4, but just yesterday Customer Service told me they had an update from Garmin and they are no longer giving an 'available' date, it's changed to 'we'll let you know.' The vendor has also changed. I canceled my order for the 2350 LMT and ordered the 1450 LMT. I can live without what the 2350 will have (whenever it's available), and the 1450 has a 5" screen. Currently, Amazon's price on the 1450 is $50 less than list, but since the news about the 2350 is getting around, the price of the 1450 has gone up $17 in three days. It isn't out yet. It was supposed to be available between Nov, 15 and Dec. 4, but just yesterday Customer Service told me they had an update from Garmin and they are no longer giving an 'available' date, it's changed to 'we'll let you know.' The vendor has also changed. I canceled my order for the 2350 LMT and ordered the 1450 LMT. I can live without what the 2350 will have (whenever it's available), and the 1450 has a 5" screen. Currently, Amazon's price on the 1450 is $50 less than list, but since the news about the 2350 is getting around, the price of the 1450 has gone up $17 in... » Read More It isn't out yet. It was supposed to be available between Nov, 15 and Dec. 4, but just yesterday Customer Service told me they had an update from Garmin and they are no longer giving an 'available' date, it's changed to 'we'll let you know.' The vendor has also changed. I canceled my order for the 2350 LMT and ordered the 1450 LMT. I can live without what the 2350 will have (whenever it's available), and the 1450 has a 5" screen. Currently, Amazon's price on the 1450 is $50 less than list, but since the news about the 2350 is getting around, the price of the 1450 has gone up $17 in three days. « Show Less
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I believe the "LM" means "lifetime maps." My unit did not have that feature originally, but it can be purchased. If I remember correctly, it was about $100 USD extra to purchase lifetime map updates.
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yep - i agree - i ALMOST ordered it last night...glad I didn't. even more interesting will be the price they'll have when it's offered by amazon direct - i am still trying to decide between the 765T and the 265 WT, which, by the way has become 7 bucks cheaper than last night !!!MediaHub - i feel like we will both end up with a good in-car nav - let's keep in touch here and try to make a good decision. www.gpsrmagazine.com has a great review/analysis of 265WT and 765T...
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Hi K. Ness, I just bought the S10 3t 2 days ago in Seattle Fry's for $499. Since then I upgraded to Windows 7 Home Premium (a must if you want to truly enjoy the multi-touch features) and now looking to upgrade to 2G RAM (less of a must as the netbook is performing really well already but I'm used to laptops and using MS Office so I want the extra speed). Regarding the GPS and WiMax that's the bit I'm struggling with at the moment. I keep reading various take on wether it is included or not. Same with Bluetooth. None seems to be working for me despite finding all the drivers on the web (drivers which are meant to be for the S10-3T which is the unit I have in my hands - btw typing this reply with it at the moment). There's also a slot for a 3G Sim Card which I have inserted but no luck there either. Probably because this is such a new product there's still no support page on Lenovo support website. So to summarise this is a great netbook/tablet PC (nice capacitive touch screen, large keyboard, decent performance) but I would have liked to see more out of the box support and documentation. Does it have GPS, WiMax, Bluetooth, 3G support ? I'm frustrated to say "I don't know" despite having the device in my own hands. So Lenovo I suggest you formally and clearly document what's in and what's not. One last thing the speakers are pretty poor compare to the iPhone's which has less physical space. But overall still a great piece of technology for the price as you get the best of both world (a netbook and a slate) and I highly recommend it.
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I don't recommend this model personally. It can't find the ways . when you drive on highway it will automatic sent you to some rural ways. and specially when you miss the way this gps pointed out on highway , the navigation will force you turn right or turn left which in real world is a straight line . piss you off uh? further more when you typed in the address from business card , the machine would jump in different name automatic ,and if you turn in researching mode .it will really reseaching .........and reseaching...........till you give up. if you wanna buy ,remember using google map first, try to write down some important addresses, and then use the nivigation .DO NOT RECOMMEND TO UNKNOWN PLACE BY USING THIS ONE.
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Thanks for the information as I appreciate it. It still looks like a pretty good deal but the updated maps would have closed the deal for me.
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There is an identical model in europe, same number, with lifetime european map updates. Depending on how much use you will have in Europe, having a 2nd gps but both with lifetime map updates might be more economical, as one update can cost $100. I have a 2577LT and I find it difficult to find addresses in rural area or very common street names in France, due to the way the unit searches.
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this unit's map is outdate. The update costs 100 bucks. Magellan sells you milk which has gone bad and ask you to pay 100 bucks for update, becasue they are buying milk from someone else. Give me a break.
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It isn't out yet. It was supposed to be available between Nov, 15 and Dec. 4, but just yesterday Customer Service told me they had an update from Garmin and they are no longer giving an 'available' date, it's changed to 'we'll let you know.' The vendor has also changed. I canceled my order for the 2350 LMT and ordered the 1450 LMT. I can live without what the 2350 will have (whenever it's available), and the 1450 has a 5" screen. Currently, Amazon's price on the 1450 is $50 less than list, but since the news about the 2350 is getting around, the price of the 1450 has gone up $17 in three days.
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The Tom Tom 1535 I purchased had free maps for the life of the unit. You can buy Tom Toms for less money that do not have this feature. This is my understanding when I purchased this unit. So far, I keep getting up dates on the unit.
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Good question! I bought the XXL 540TM AFTER it was discontinued and DO get the maps but that was a year ago. I believe you will if it is advertized as having Lifetime maps and you buy it from TomTom or Amazon or a reputable dealer. You can send it back if they don't live up to the promise. The maps come out every quarter so you will soon know. BTW, Lifetime maps only applies to the US, not Europe. Also, there is not room on the 540 for new Western Europe maps AND the US maps at the same time, but you can switch them or use "map zones". I am very pleased with the traffic receiver, it works here in the US and even better in Britain. Good question! I bought the XXL 540TM AFTER it was discontinued and DO get the maps but that was a year ago. I believe you will if it is advertized as having Lifetime maps and you buy it from TomTom or Amazon or a reputable dealer. You can send it back if they don't live up to the promise. The maps come out every quarter so you will soon know. BTW, Lifetime maps only applies to the US, not Europe. Also, there is not room on the 540 for new Western Europe maps AND the US maps at the same time, but you can switch them or use "map zones". I am very pleased with the traffic receiver,... » Read More Good question! I bought the XXL 540TM AFTER it was discontinued and DO get the maps but that was a year ago. I believe you will if it is advertized as having Lifetime maps and you buy it from TomTom or Amazon or a reputable dealer. You can send it back if they don't live up to the promise. The maps come out every quarter so you will soon know. BTW, Lifetime maps only applies to the US, not Europe. Also, there is not room on the 540 for new Western Europe maps AND the US maps at the same time, but you can switch them or use "map zones". I am very pleased with the traffic receiver, it works here in the US and even better in Britain. « Show Less
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I am so glad that you posted this update as Euro updates would have been essential to me too. I looked and found no exclusion to suggest they weren't included. Very naughty of TomTom ! Worth a challenge if you can put up with the attitude of the customer service staff. I had a similar experience with the purchase of a refurbished TomTom which suggested that it had the latest maps. They weren't !!! They were three updates out of date immediately. Buyer beware.
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Most likely price and newer technology. Can't go wrong with a 5 inch screen. I want to say mine is the 54 lm with canada and us. I would suggest you get one with lifetime map updates.
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Sir , I have a Garmin 2597 LMT 5" inch Bluetooth portable , it has life time maps, traffics all the bells and whistles ,I picked mine up for a song only$167.00 + 12.19 shipping so, around $180.00. I am happy with mine! Don't know about 2577 models!
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I just called Garmin. The person who answered the phone said that if you get a unit with V8 mapping data you will be sent a free update when they become available at the end of July 2007 [or maybe early August]. To get the free update, don't order it through ordinary channels. Call customer support and talk to a person. He reassured me that it won't matter who I happen to talk to when I call back; this is the new policy. It tool me 10 minutes to get through at 10:40AM PDT. As soon as they announce the update, at which point the rumor of the new policy will have spread far and wide, i'm sure wait times will increase, but there's a finite number of units covered so it'll settle down if you wait a week or so. They also told me to expect substantial improvements in the map data and POI data of V2008 over V8. This last statement, of course, should be taken with a grain of salt. -dk
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I seem to like the xxl better. Try getting the ones with the free yearly upgrades. In the end I got a phone, evo 4g which come with three different navigation programs. One uses telenav. Lol. So no gps for me. Maybe in the future.