60p and 24p questions: Is there truly a double the quality picture going from 60i to 60p or is it minimal improvement at best (i.e. should I upgrade)?
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Hey! 1. There is definitely a considerable increase in quality between 60i and 60p, especially if you are using the camera to shoot movies. For example, for me, I usually add CG elements into my film since I enjoy making short films, and that does not necessarily sit well with 60i footage. The interlacing can cause weird artifacts especially while I'm compositing shots. The more lateral (horizontal) movement you have, the greater the quality of 60i depreciates compared to 60p. However, as much as I hate interlaced footage, i would stress that you consider what you use your camera for. If it is for straightforward home movies or other casual recordings, then you are FINE! You wouldn't necessarily appreciate or find as great a jump in quality. 2. I'm not going to pretend that I have expert knowledge on this. Your point seems valid. However, RAW bit rate is not always an accurate measure of video quality. And keep in mind that for both cases the bit rate corresponds to bits per second, and if there are 60 frames in a second, interlaced or not, each frame contains the same amount of data, with this data being either interpolated in the interlaced case, or actually captured in the progressive case. 60p at 28Mbps would look better than 60i at 25Mbps 3. You would think so right? However, due to standards that were set in the film industry back in the old days, and the reluctance of the industry to let go of these standards, 24fps is what most movies you watch in theaters are recorded/playing at. In essence it is what makes movies look like movies. Usually just after a glance you can tell whether any playing video is a movie or a TV show; It is because you are subconsciously used to movies looking like they do, i.e. at 24fps. Hence, for a short film maker like myself, 24fps mode is a huge plus! I hope i answered your questions, or at least did so partly. Cheers!
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BTW...yesterday I was in BB and Sony has just released a 32" XBR9 1080p with 120hz Motionflow technology... and it is up on the Sony Style website.. so much for what the salesman tell you that Sony is not going to produce..But compared to the Sony 32" 1080p 60 hz.. I thought the higher priced model with 120hz looked grainy to me. I really didn't see the $200 difference in the (retail price). Perhaps on Blu Ray disc viewing there is a difference.. GLTA
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So its not really 120hz or... what? I just bought the LN40C630, and I notice a lot of juddering still, like its not really working. In the store compared to the other tvs this one looked great during action scenes, but now that i have it in the house, i swear this thing is just as juddery. I messed with the settings for auto-motion and it seems like it may have even gotten worse *confused*....
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Just purchased the Canon SX40. It is truly amazing. There are not too many boats out on the ice right now, but I think it will do what I want. The picture quality is fantastic. Shortcomings? Since I'm a newbie I don't understand why some pics are blurry and others not; but that is probably more my inexperience than the camera. Also, it shoots 1080 video only at 24 fps. This is still pretty good, but there are some situations where a moving video is less crisp. But I could always switch to non HD if I choose, and have 30 fps that way. Thanks for your help.
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I am not sure how helpful this reply is, but I am in the process of upgrading an existing TV and spent about half an hour just looking at the 55" and up TV's at Best Buy yesterday for about half an hour. I watched about 8 different sets which included both Plasma (Samsung & Panasonic) along with LED edge-lit tv's from Samsung, LG, Sharp and Sony. I have to say that I only saw this on one TV and that was a Sharp 60" set. This set was set to ultra-torch mode and looked pretty crappy in general. I attributed the issue to the settings being cranked too high. I can't guarentee you that the problem would completely disappear with either a DIY adjustment or with professional calibration but I am sure it would be much, much less noticeable. My guess is that the lower end Sharp sets are going to be a little more tempermental and need more adjustments and tradeoffs. I would really like to see one of these sets in a real world set up and adjusted properly (I want a 60" TV with a smaller bexel due to space restrictions (Panny 60" ST30 is just a little too big). I really did like the looks of the LG 55LW5600. I have plasma right now and like it, but I am not convinced the blacks really are that good despite what David K. says on CNET. Some of the edge-lit LED sets do have decent black levels and detail in darker scenes. Maybe not as good as the Panny's, but they are so much brighter (will be used in a well-lit living room) and whites are white and not gray!
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Well you're shooting in 60i mode, which is interlaced. If you want progressive you have to shoot at 30p or 24p
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T.C. Thanks so much for a really thorough and helpful post. I'm far from a videophile, given my age (58) and thus waning eyesight, so as long as I see the screen and it has good clarity, that's enough. The additional bells and whistles would constitute decreasing returns to scale for me given my eyes being unable to appreciate the greater sharpness.
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Thanks for the response. I'm not really interested in the 24p aesthetic. I am interested in taking video of quarter midget race cars racing. I have a HV10 now that has two problems (as I see it). One is that it's HD format is 1080i and the other is that the HD video is compressed to the same bit rate as SD video. It looks like the native 24p mode of the HV40 could solve one of these problems. It boggles my mind that so few camcorders offer progressive recording. Nearly all the still cameras that take video do it in progressive format.
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I can only comment on the M3D550KD because that's what I own. The price difference is very close, so I consider the price as not a factor. The 240MHZ refresh rate was a big deal for me and I still think it's worth having. The picture is very smooth on DVD's and Blue Ray. HDTV is really nice as well. Standard definition is noticably worse, but I guess that's why they went to HD. The 3D is really cool. I didn't buy the TV for 3D, but it's one of my favorite features now. I've owned it for several months with no problems. Bottom line, if it was stolen off my wall, I'd buy another one to replace it. I can only comment on the M3D550KD because that's what I own. The price difference is very close, so I consider the price as not a factor. The 240MHZ refresh rate was a big deal for me and I still think it's worth having. The picture is very smooth on DVD's and Blue Ray. HDTV is really nice as well. Standard definition is noticably worse, but I guess that's why they went to HD. The 3D is really cool. I didn't buy the TV for 3D, but it's one of my favorite features now. I've owned it for several months with no problems. Bottom line, if it was stolen off my wall, I'd buy another one to... » Read More I can only comment on the M3D550KD because that's what I own. The price difference is very close, so I consider the price as not a factor. The 240MHZ refresh rate was a big deal for me and I still think it's worth having. The picture is very smooth on DVD's and Blue Ray. HDTV is really nice as well. Standard definition is noticably worse, but I guess that's why they went to HD. The 3D is really cool. I didn't buy the TV for 3D, but it's one of my favorite features now. I've owned it for several months with no problems. Bottom line, if it was stolen off my wall, I'd buy another one to replace it. « Show Less
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No But...The next step up the EX6220 for 40$ more is 720p HD widescreen and compared to the 1080p 57" plasma I have in the bedroom we find our selves saying who cares about 1080p. The epson 6220 truly puts out an amazing picture. Foot ball games are incredible. You won't be disappointed I still have to say out loud this picture is awesome and I've logged over 150 hours on it.
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Matt, thanks for posting this. I had the same question and couldn't find an answer. Is it possible that the latency the reviewer perceived is due to upconverting the signal to 1080i, and you are simply converting the analogue to digital signal without changing the resolution? I'm not clear on whether converting implies *up*converting, couldn't really find an answer... but based on your feedback I think I'll give this a shot.
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Considering they keep uping the Hz we may always be chasing the speed. The HDTV's from just last year were 60Hz. The higher end one's were 120Hz and now we are at 240Hz. I am going for the size. I hope I am making the right choice.
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Thanks for your response. So... Is there any difference in picture quality?
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It cannot shoot native 24P like a DVX100B or a GH2. It shoots 24P and then converts to 60i to give a film look. It's not a bad look, but something is missing visually.
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I have a plasma (Panasonic 37" 720p) and the pictures (taken by a Nikon d50, 6 megapixel) look very good, maybe a little to vivid, but that's the TV and I can adjust it. I think the WD does a fine job but you might need to tweak the TV a little.Marcel.
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Doggone. And I was just thinking about springing for a samsung 4671 (a consensus 5 stars from Amazon consumers). The main thing that bugs me about the V2500 series is the omission of Normal mode when adjusting aspect ratio. Since the set automatically interprets a 480i signal as 720p or 1080i, you're stuck watching nothing but short fat people unless you can control aspect ratio from the DVD player and set-up box. It wouldn't matter if all source material were in hi def, but unfortunately most is not. Sony made a colossal blunder, but apparently woke up by the time of the 3000 series.
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Basically right now 4k is the newest technology & there's not enough content out in 4k yet. It's a much higher resolution so u probably won't be able to tell the difference anyway. But I'm sure within the next 2 years you'll see 4k at higher hz. My opinion not worth the money right now. Stick with led tv at 240Hz with a quad core processor. Cheaper & will hold up well for a few years