Does this version have the propane charcoal starter flame? Nothing mentions this. I have older model which looks the same and has the charcoal starter gadget.
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No it does notThis is the gold versionIf you want the starter you have to get the platinum version
141586
No Beverly, it does not have the propane starter; but it might be available as an option.
141587
No propane on this one. This version does not have the propane charcoal starter flame. But that is why I bought this version. I am an old fashioned charcoal, lighter fluid, match type of guy. I will add by way of information, I have had to relearn how to cook compared to my old Webers. With this new model, whether it is the new paint, metal, coating whatever, 1) it heats up very quickly and 2) it gets very hot. So it takes a lot less time from lighting the charcoal to being ready to cook. I would say 15 minutes versus 25 to 30 with my old one. Second, it cooks much hotter and faster. IN some cases almost twice as fast as my old model - which I have to admit had a lot of wear and tear. No propane on this one. This version does not have the propane charcoal starter flame. But that is why I bought this version. I am an old fashioned charcoal, lighter fluid, match type of guy. I will add by way of information, I have had to relearn how to cook compared to my old Webers. With this new model, whether it is the new paint, metal, coating whatever, 1) it heats up very quickly and 2) it gets very hot. So it takes a lot less time from lighting the charcoal to being ready to cook. I would say 15 minutes versus 25 to 30 with my old one. Second, it cooks much hotter and faster. IN... » Read More No propane on this one. This version does not have the propane charcoal starter flame. But that is why I bought this version. I am an old fashioned charcoal, lighter fluid, match type of guy. I will add by way of information, I have had to relearn how to cook compared to my old Webers. With this new model, whether it is the new paint, metal, coating whatever, 1) it heats up very quickly and 2) it gets very hot. So it takes a lot less time from lighting the charcoal to being ready to cook. I would say 15 minutes versus 25 to 30 with my old one. Second, it cooks much hotter and faster. IN some cases almost twice as fast as my old model - which I have to admit had a lot of wear and tear. « Show Less
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No, this is the version without the starting "gadget" that tends to fail. In my opinion this is the better model as you save $50 for a gadget that tends to fail. There are plenty of other options on the market that assist in starting charcoal that you can get for far less than $50 to go along with this grill.
141589
I love this grill! It does not have an igniter. I use the charcoal chimney.
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It does not. It's got all the stuff on the bottom to clean out the charcoal, but not a charcoal lighter :( I think that feature is in the "platinum" models only these days
141591
The Performer Gold does not have the ignition system. That model is now called the Performer Platinum, I believe. You can look at the Weber-Stephen site to be sure. They look the same and probably are the same except for that feature.
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No the $109.99 Volcano 20-200 Charcoal Collapsible Grill does not include propane attachment. You have to order the Volcano3 Collapsible Propane Grill/Stove. Link is here: https://www.volcanogrills.com/collapsible-stovegrills
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Hi Robert, the 58140 model does not have an ignitor. Can you tell me where you saw this advertised? I have checked our product listing and do not see where an ignitor is mentioned as being offered on this model.
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It does. My only complaint about this item is that it is awkward to start it. You hold a button to start the flow of fuel, strike the flint with another button, and use your third hand to lock it on. It's very safe, but takes some getting used to.
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Yes, it does. But honestly I have not figured out how to use it effectively yet. I've burnt some of the paint twice by over heating it with wood. I'm sure it is my fault as the grill itself is incredible and cooks wonderfully. We've cooked more with it than our gas Weber since buying it. Huge baby, but love it!!
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the one I received required propane. quite a surprise to us!! it works just fine though...
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The new one of this model does not have the far right start knob. I had the grill that is shown on Amazon now. The one you now get and which I also bought is the same style but it behaves much worse. No far right knob and the propane tank sits on the left side instead of the right. I never had problems with the older model propane hardware or the grill at all. This new model which I recently bought is already leaking propane left and right. The flare ups are freaking scary. The new model number is 463241413. I don't know the previous model number of the last TRU infrared 4 burner...which is shown in this picture. The new one of this model does not have the far right start knob. I had the grill that is shown on Amazon now. The one you now get and which I also bought is the same style but it behaves much worse. No far right knob and the propane tank sits on the left side instead of the right. I never had problems with the older model propane hardware or the grill at all. This new model which I recently bought is already leaking propane left and right. The flare ups are freaking scary. The new model number is 463241413. I don't know the previous model number of the last TRU infrared 4 burner...which is... » Read More The new one of this model does not have the far right start knob. I had the grill that is shown on Amazon now. The one you now get and which I also bought is the same style but it behaves much worse. No far right knob and the propane tank sits on the left side instead of the right. I never had problems with the older model propane hardware or the grill at all. This new model which I recently bought is already leaking propane left and right. The flare ups are freaking scary. The new model number is 463241413. I don't know the previous model number of the last TRU infrared 4 burner...which is shown in this picture. « Show Less
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Hello! Both of the ones I purchased came with butane in them. You can adjust the output of the flame with a little thing on the bottom. Hope this helps!
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Yes, this works just like the original version of the stove, just in a lighter, smaller version. There are 3 jets that are easily swapped out in the field if required. One for isobutane canisters, one for naptha, and one for gasoline/diesel/kerosene etc.... The hose that connects to the red fuel canister in the picture, will also connect to isobutane canisters. Just have the jet installed for whatever fuel type you want to burn and your cooking with fire...as the saying goes. I've been using this stove for the last year and am very happy with it. The last stove you'll ever need to buy. Highly recommended. Convenience of canisters, and the flexibility to burn any fuel you can find. What's not to love??
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You can get this electric or charcoal. I have the electric model and am satisfied with the performance.
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No, it does not. But we LOVE it anyway! I would recommend you get the model with the removable grilling surfaces, for easier cleaning.
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No, this model doesn't have electric start. That is the Performer Platinum, I think. As far as help starting charcoal, you can buy a chimney starter for about $15 for assistance with lighting charcoal. That's what I use and it works great.
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No, it doesn't have a piezo igniter but you can buy a universal type igniter that you can install yourself or use a butane lighter with a long neck designed for bbqs. I currently use a butane on mine but they do make handheld piezo lighters that don't use butane or other gas. I'm still doing some research on this but so far I'm not impressed with what's out there in terms of quality or price. A butane lighter does work great. There's a hole in the side where you can insert the lighter and I've found it easy enough. The upside is that not having an igniter means one less thing to go wrong.
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The one I have is for Natural Gas. They do make a propane Model. Eccotemp FVI12-LP
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You can ignite the gas side with the burners but need a starter on the charcoal side. We use those paraffin/sawdust squares or "fat wood".
2018664
It does not come with the propane tank. As others have said, it is not expensive. i suggest getting two tanks so that you have a spare. You are guaranteed to run out while you are cooking for a party!
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Hi Kevin, I would assume it's the New Version but I would ask them before you buy it to make doubly sure if you have doubt. I love mine. It's the new version. Bought it almost 1 year ago now. I've used it hundreds of times since then. WOnderful design. Well worth owning. Fits in my fireplace on cold rainy days but most often use it on top of the picnic table setting on a 12" sq. tile I bought just for this purpose for a couple bucks. Every survival prepper should have one.