The clamping system on this bench version looks much different than on the less expensive version (Keter 17182239). Is the upgrade worth it?
140103
The cheaper version comes with two bar clamps and no adjustable feet. The adjustable height version has identical t slot in table but doesn't come with bar clamps but instead comes with two toggles and four corner stops I have both and love both but thus far have only used bar clamps and never have had need to adjust legs so for me cheaper version best option but I highly recommend either
140104
I was more interested the light weight of the bench and in the adjustable leg feature than the clamping system. The clamping system that came with my unit has two types of clamps both of which work just fine. I would highly recommend this work bench.
140105
I found the top-bottom clamps very useful to hold boards while cutting on the edge of the table. I don't believe I could have secured them that well with the other type of clamps. However the horizontal clamp is probably better to hold pieces vertical for drilling. This table comes with horizontal clamps too but there's no mechanism to tighten the jaws (like the trigger in the yellow ones of the other model) which makes them kind-of useless for me.
140106
Yes-clamping system is much better. Adjustable and allows you to really hold something down so it doesn't move.
642285
I changed one once with a craftsman. I don't remember all of the model numbers but a lot of them are compatible. You can usually tell by just looking at the parts where the box attaches to the rail & look at the gear that the chain goes around.
1444694
I am very pleased with the sander. I can not comment on the upgrade since I am not familiar with it. The B03710 sands much faster and has less vibration than the one I had before. And I like that it uses 1/3 sheet of paper.I would recommend it. NH
333757
It is indeed confusing. It looks like the basic unit is rebranded and sold by different providers. Unless you really need something at this price point, I'd look elsewhere; I have a couple of these and they're just not very good bench supplies. Extremely bad quality manufacture, lack of fine adjustment, and poorly calibrated.
1446945
I plan on buying whatever razor I like and modifying its handle if need be with some duck tape (a few or many turns to make it fatter and stick in there securely). I wouldn't worry too much about getting something "compatible" if you are a fix-it type. Also, such surely beats paying 72 bucks for their "warhammer" model which seems about as effective at everything as this one.
1229551
I own the PR3000. No cable changes necessary, just accessories need to be changed of course. Also, this machine is most certainly upgradeable to 310#. I have it configured that way now. It does NOT upgrade to 410# though like the Extreme2 SE does. Also the extreme 2 SE has a better lat tower, and better seat. the frame appears to be the same though. Kind of like a Ford/lincoln comparison.
1288625
I own th extreme 2. The main differences I could see were NO cable adjustments are needed on the extreme model, and the addition of middle pulleys on the extreme. I viewed both of these as significant upgrades, and opted for the more expensive machine. I have not been dissatisfied.
629800
That has not been a problem for me. But I suppose it has a lot to do with what you are used to. It is actually more workbench than I need -- a beautiful piece of equipment.
403227
Not sure about the other models in requested comparison. My observations:- extremely effective. Moves huge volume of air.- Can be somewhat noisy. Low frequency buzz & "whoosh" of air- weak point is the angle adjustment which is governed by friction from a couple of washers and rubber grommets. Need to keep tight all the time. Suggest replacing with better/ larger fasteners
918773
Im very happy with it. Im mostly using it in place of a joiners vise, and it accels. Though not apparent by its look, the clamping pressure is very responsive, and can be controlled easily. I think they even clamp in a raw egg on a promo video I saw. It can tilt a bit if you are torquing on it, like bending pipe, but that can be mitigated by putting your foot in the stirrup thing at the end of the front leg.
1263623
Yes, Ron, I believe it is. I had an early production model, and when I registered concern about its performance, I received an upgrade kit. This improved model is probably listed as Dovetailer II.
1526591
It does make a difference in my opinion. I have the 4 inch version, single clamp, on my one year old Mini 14. It improved group sizes and it looks just great.
1270846
I did some googling and see what your version looks like. I think you do have the new version. Mine looks exactly like the one in the picture. My understanding is that this model was discontinued, so maybe what happened is they brought it back again and changed the appearance slightly. For what it's worth, I think this is my #1 favorite tool in my woodworking shop. Solid, reliable, and fits perfectly in the hand. I'd be curious to know if there are any functional differences between the old and new models.
2033091
From a blowup of the pic, the stamped steel cutouts and handles don't look as beefy as the Lang or A.K.A. Kastar if you get their later units (USA made). These are the same as Snap On and you can get their kits for <$100 if you shop around.
1646043
A having researched the differences, I believe the issues are very slight and can easily be dealt with buy anyone quickly with a little observation and common sense. I believe it is a pin diameter issue. I bought one and was surprised at the quality and was prepared to do the mod but it went on very nicely on the GSG922. Go for it, You are an American and will overcome. I have faith!
1922194
I agree with Hernandez and Moss. Make sure the bipod is the newer clamp redesign as the older model had a nasty habit of snapping open.
2196619
The primary difference appears to be cosmetic, in that the cover plate has changed (for the worse, in my opinion). Rather than the fancier script it reads "Special 20" with the word "Progressive" in the middle. The screw heads that hold the reed plate in are smaller than before, and the diameter of the screws is about half of what it was. There are a couple of other little changes too, but not worth mentioning. None of these things are a big deal in terms of playability - pretty much non-issues, really. I'd still go for the earlier model (stores have tons of them around) just on looks, the older model just has a cooler appearance. Also, you could watch for sales on these (just before Christmas Amazon had a set of 5 for $106). Still, it's a good harp.